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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
You've got the right to your opinion just like I've got the right to mine. You're correct that he never entered into my sphere of recognition until yesterday, but I don't see how that's in any way relevant. The only reason he did was because he did something that's so outside the recognized rules of conduct both on and off the field that, in my mind, he forfeited his right to his job immediately. He interferred with and attempted to hurt a player from an opposing team. There is no room for that in the game, especially from a coach/staff member. I can't draw a line between what actually happened and taking a folding chair to the back of his head.
As far as saying that there was no deliberate interferrence, well, Sal Alosi disagrees with you since he's already admitted as much.
As for the rest of what you posted blathering about "undue outrage" and Roman emporers, I'm not going to apologize for stating my opinion. I don't care if you agree with me or not, but telling me that I don't get to have one make you look arrogant. You don't own this thread and you don't get to tell folks what they can think.
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I'm not sure what you are getting all riled up about, Jazz, as in no way did anything I write have the inference that your opinion is wrong, and/or unworthy.
And what arrogance am I displayng here? I argued both sides of what the issue was, yet I still believe (as much as it is my right to offer stated opinion here as well) that not a one of us has the authority and/or right connections to decide, based upon what we saw, of whether or not this assistant gets fired, fined, put in jail, and what have you. If it's solely because I stated it was "funny", you can't really believe I'd recant that.
The assistant didn't walk towards the player in any manner, he didn't stick his leg out so blatantly as you'd regularly in Monty Python skits, (45-degree full-leg extension, heel-to-ground) and he was surrounded by other assistants who were just as far out as he was. now, they didn't subtly lean forward and extend their knees as a punt-coverage player was streaking towards them, but again, there was no reason for Carroll to be that far out of bounds. Not that I have to do so, but yeah, Alosi's actions this past weekend were definite grounds for dismissal, and shows in just an infintesimal degree what sort of character of person he could really be.
And I didn't quite state it the way you made it out, Jazz. Of course what Alosi did was interference, but when I added the caveat of "blatant", he didn't run straight at any one Dolphin player and truck him, nor did he ever step foot onto the game field and interrupt process. Additionally, did I even refer to you or call you out on something to get you this upset? I'm talking in generalities here of how most people initially reacted to this, both here, on blogs, messageboards, televsion, and on ESPN; and I don't think I even quoted one word of what you stated above. Like I assumed above, the assistant was both suspended by the Jets organization for he rest of the reason, and then the NFL board ruled a few hours later the same thing (including the playoffs). He's still an employee of the NFL, but it stand to reason he's on very thin ice for a while now (possibly blackballed for the rest of his tenure in the NFL, however long he may wish it to be, for what occurred).
I actually rather stand up for, and call out non-stories, and I haven't watched any television since the weekend (ther than the Monday Night game on my phone) because I knew the media firestorm would only be talking about Favre's consecutive start-streak ending, with just a little bit of this Alosi's verdict sprinkled in to spark controversial thoughts. Is this really the only important thing that happened this past week? I'm not trying to quell the discussion you guys are trying to have about this, but how many ways can you dissect it? And this is the only noteworthy piece of NFL news to happen in the past three weeks - really? (judging by the lack of other responses towards teams, players, coaches, and playoff implications.)
Maybe I'm just a different breed of fan. I like discussing with people, but not when you get into the hypotheticals and suppositions of what fine or punishment a dirty player or cheating coach may get. That's gossip and rumours. I reserve my participation for the actual game played on the field. I'm sorry if offended you by stating it just so. I'll re-enter this topic when we actually make just a bit of progress back to what occurred when the time is actually ticking down on the game clock. This isn't arrogance. I'm responding am I not? Trying to put forth absurd hypotheticals (my words) just as much as the next, asking questions, and trying to elicit some sort of real opinion. But... yes, I'd much rather it be pertaining to game action and consequences thereof, if only so I can join in on the participation (selfish me) and allow a healthy exchange of ideas.
This news, I agree, was pertinent, but the guy got what was deserving, and I'll re-iterate, it just doesn't make sense to someone like me to invest too much of my time hashing out what happened, or the reasons (excuses) he might have given for what he had done - because in the end, I'll just make myself (and possibly others) upset in trying to play judge, jury and executioner.