It's really fucking hard. Just how I like it.
I spent 3 1/2 hours cycling through party members in heroic randoms, trying to do heroic deadmines. I don't forsee randoms getting good at heroics for quite a while, took a guild group, not even geared enough to run randoms yet (wont let them queue) and did it in just around an hour.
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logged out in my lame dps gear cuz I had a daily to do. Oh well.