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mrmacq · 12-11-2010, 09:46 PM

just saw this dude
(ya got to stop posting as im posting)
Oh hey. Citation!

Counting Mexico’s Guns | FactCheck.org

You're talkin about millions of fully auto AKs for the taking from S. America, like Colombia, Venezuela or other countries (and only POS single shots from the US). Which one do you think Cartels are buying from?

Quote:
Without A "Trace"
In a joint statement presented to the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Crimes and Drugs, ATF Assistant Director for Field Operations William Hoover and Anthony Placido, assistant administrator of intelligence with the Drug Enforcement Administration, clarified that the 90 percent figure is true of guns that were submitted and could be traced:
Hoover and Placido, March 17, 2009: Firearms are routinely being transported from the U.S. into Mexico in violation of both U.S. and Mexican law. In fact, according to ATF’s National Tracing Center, 90 percent of the weapons that could be traced were determined to have originated from various sources within the U.S.
And Mexico recovers a lot more guns than it submits to the U.S. In December 2008, Mexican Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora put the number of recovered crime weapons in the country over the past two years at nearly 29,000, according to USA Today. And figures given by ATF make clear that the agency doesn’t trace nearly all of those.
According to ATF, Mexico submitted 7,743 firearms for tracing in fiscal year 2008 (which ended Oct. 1) and 3,312 guns in fiscal 2007. That adds up to a fraction of the two-year total given by Mexico’s attorney general. He may be referring to a slightly different 24-month period, but that can’t account for more than a part of the discrepancy. The number is growing, and already this year, Mexico has submitted more than 7,500 guns for tracing, according to ATF. But even if all those guns are added in, the total submitted for tracing since the start of fiscal 2007 doesn’t come close to the 29,000 figure that Mexico says it has recovered.

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Last edited by KirStang; 12-11-2010 at 09:16 PM..

ya really think south america is going to give up weapons?
(like youre hoping iraq will?)
shake your head
single shots from america?
hah ha
silly bugger
and here i thought you were a gun nut
Full-Auto Conversion Plans For Converting Many Firearms to Full Auto

and the rest of it agreed with me
(ya got to find a better way of debating
this aint working for ya)

12-11-2010, 09:46 PM	#69 (permalink)
mrmacq Upright Location: lotus land 3rd igloo on the right	just saw this dude (ya got to stop posting as im posting) Oh hey. Citation! Counting Mexico’s Guns \| FactCheck.org You're talkin about millions of fully auto AKs for the taking from S. America, like Colombia, Venezuela or other countries (and only POS single shots from the US). Which one do you think Cartels are buying from? Quote: Without A "Trace" In a joint statement presented to the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Crimes and Drugs, ATF Assistant Director for Field Operations William Hoover and Anthony Placido, assistant administrator of intelligence with the Drug Enforcement Administration, clarified that the 90 percent figure is true of guns that were submitted and could be traced: Hoover and Placido, March 17, 2009: Firearms are routinely being transported from the U.S. into Mexico in violation of both U.S. and Mexican law. In fact, according to ATF’s National Tracing Center, 90 percent of the weapons that could be traced were determined to have originated from various sources within the U.S. And Mexico recovers a lot more guns than it submits to the U.S. In December 2008, Mexican Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora put the number of recovered crime weapons in the country over the past two years at nearly 29,000, according to USA Today. And figures given by ATF make clear that the agency doesn’t trace nearly all of those. According to ATF, Mexico submitted 7,743 firearms for tracing in fiscal year 2008 (which ended Oct. 1) and 3,312 guns in fiscal 2007. That adds up to a fraction of the two-year total given by Mexico’s attorney general. He may be referring to a slightly different 24-month period, but that can’t account for more than a part of the discrepancy. The number is growing, and already this year, Mexico has submitted more than 7,500 guns for tracing, according to ATF. But even if all those guns are added in, the total submitted for tracing since the start of fiscal 2007 doesn’t come close to the 29,000 figure that Mexico says it has recovered. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by KirStang; 12-11-2010 at 09:16 PM.. ya really think south america is going to give up weapons? (like youre hoping iraq will?) shake your head single shots from america? hah ha silly bugger and here i thought you were a gun nut Full-Auto Conversion Plans For Converting Many Firearms to Full Auto and the rest of it agreed with me (ya got to find a better way of debating this aint working for ya) __________________ never stop questioning,curiosity has its own rewards Last edited by mrmacq; 12-11-2010 at 09:50 PM..