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Originally Posted by Willravel
I'm not getting in a semantic debate over the word 'scandal', debaser. The two largest polluters in the world secretly teamed up, something relatively uncommon, to undermine a global initiative that could have consequences for hundreds of years. That's a big deal whether you understand and accept climate science or not. BTW, Shell has infiltrated and has significant control of the Nigerian government, a Texas company pimped little boys to stone Afghani police, etc. etc. etc. but these aren't the point.
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I support them going through them and finding this information (if it exists). Write articles, ask tough questions, dig deeper. Any criminal or shady behavior is fair game. And diplomatic decisions that go against what a politcian campaigned on is fair game. Any corporate meddling in diplomatic affairs is fine too (Visa & MC in Russia...)
Yet I think that there are some in there that the public doesn't care to know, shouldn't know, or doesn't want to know.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
. Wikileaks is a check to balance out power that's wildly one-sided in this world. You and I have almost no power whatsoever, but because of organizations like wikileaks, we get some of the power that's taken from us back. They're giving us the tools to determine if the power we're giving up should be given up, so we can decide with all of the information if the government or corporations really are working in the best interest of the people. In that way, its truly democratic.
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I don't always want the diplomats to have to be worrying about elections and pissing off the voters if they offer something or get something in return for better treaty terms.
No offense, but I think you're being naive. Classified documents about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would have meant a solid Kerry win in 2004. Don't fool yourself: those in power use secrecy as a way to maintain and grow their power at your expense.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
Wikileaks (not Assange) is hosting information leaked by someone else. It's a media outlet. They've demonstrated they have no axe to grind and the documents they've 'dumped' have all been vetted by experts and the offer was even made to have the US government go through them just to be sure. That request was denied.
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There is no way that Obama would have sent someone to work on the cables. Could you imagine to news stories about that?