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Old 12-08-2010, 07:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Fremen View Post
Let's have an example of your lying.
I want to see how believable it is.
Okay here are some examples:

(Friend calls me up on my cell phone)

Kristina: Hey whats up?
Me: Nothing much, you?
Kristina: Same, you wanna get some food?
Me: Oh, like what kind?
Kristina: I dunnno...what do you want to eat?
Me: Anything low in calories...im watching my weight. (this is a lie, im not watching my weight cause im already at idea body weight)
Kristina: Oh gosh...pshh Panda Express?
Me: Ummm..yeah sure thats cool.
Kristina: Okay you wanna meet me there or i pick you up?
Me:Ill meet you there.

Another example:
Max: Hey how much did you pay for your J's racing knob?
Me: Oh i got it as a present from my brother. (this is a lie...i bought it myself)
Max: Oh luck bastard.
Me: Hehe yeah i know.

Another example:
brother: Hey kiddo, you free this Saturday?
Me: Hey kuya, im going to a friend's birthday party. (this is a lie, i like my brother but i just dont feel like hanging out....just wanna chill at home)
brother: Oh man you suck.
Me: Yeah man.
brother: Thats cool, well hang out another time.

Another example:
Jason: Yo whats up mang?
Me: Not much homie, whats up with you?
Jason: same old shit.
Me: Ditto
Jason: Whats your plans for this weekend?
Me: Im going to half moon bay for fish & chips with my girlfriend. (this is a lie, i dont have a girlfriend however i am going to half moon bay for fish & chips)
Jason: Aww shiat, thats cool dawg. I was hoping we could kick it, ya know slump on them fools at the mall.
Me: Next time breh, i gotta spend time with my girl.
Jason: For show mang, spend time with your lady. Ima holla at you later.
Me: Show nuff, holla back!
Jason: Aiight, later breh.

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Originally Posted by kramus View Post
You may be surprised at how many folks around you actually are on to at least some of the fabrications/exaggerations you are prone to. People may not confront you because they think you are getting something from your habit that is important to you. And there may be a number of acquaintances of yours that discount most of what you say while politely acting to your face as if they believe you merely to keep the peace. I've worked with a few folks who were chronic liars. In the end it was nice when they moved on because it's a pain automatically thinking most of what a particular person says is BS.

I stopped smoking after 20+ years. It actually would be easy to take up again, but I don't want to put a deal breaker like that in the way of the best thing that has ever happened to me (my current SO). It wasn't easy, but one thing I did was make a lot of little decisions to not smoke. Those decisions have added up to 5 years of not smoking now. I wasn't worried about having an occasional cigarette when I first stopped because it was just one decision, not a complete failure of a program.

What I'm saying is, work on making little decisions when you think about interactions or conversations you may have. A little decision to not embroider your conversation or make stuff up. Just talk. If you feed someone a line, I would suggest you also develop some sort of policy or response to your lying. Perhaps a combination of a disclaimer (light in tone, maybe a minor joke) saying you are in recovery from a chronic case of the deceptions, and would now like to tell it like it really is.

Apparently some folks have self esteem issues when it comes to chronic lying as an adult. Demonstrating some sort of superiority over others, or evading responsibility for one reason or another. So if you work on self-honesty, cutting the bullshit within yourself so that you accept things the way they are and accept that other people can handle you the way you are, you will be doing yourself a real service.

Again, white lies are part of a social oil that go along with polite discourse and the respect you ought to automatically give others. This is Golden Rule stuff - do unto others. Chronic lies for no apparent reason are different, and more damaging.

Good luck.
Read this all and taken to heart, one of the best posts in this thread. Thanks for your advice/input.

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Originally Posted by bagatelle View Post
^^ I like the reply above. As an example I give you my mother.

She worked in the food store in a small village, so she knew almost everyone. She enjoyed very much being known and socializing, but she sort of took us kids granted. I never had any real discussions with her, she heard what was going on in school from other kids or their parents, who came to the store, not directly from me, but that wouldn't stop her from talking about me to the customers as if she knew what my opinions and thoughts were. She was fabricating another kind of life with her stories than what I felt like I was living in.

She would have had ambitions to become a teacher, but at the time her family was not wealthy enough to provide the education. Maybe if she could have directed her talents to something more fulfilling, she wouldn't have had that much need to pretend her life wasn't exactly what she had wished for.

Anyway, this has bothered me and my brother a lot, so we don't really give her much information. As she tends to turn it to something else in the end or expose our lives to others in a way we wouldn't want to. I suppose mothers are prone to doing that though.

Little decisions sounds a good advice. Some people can quit habits 'cold turkey', but some self-control could work as well. If the problem is, that one lies when responding to someone, maybe they should think first and realize, they don't always have to come up with something to say.

Maybe writing stories could be one solution? You could fabricate as much as you want to.
You know thats not a bad idea..this might sound funky but before i enter a situation, i play it out in my head kinda like a lucid dream where you can control and manipulate the environment. I do this quickly like its all sped up like when you fast forward a videotape and then i proceed into the situation expelling the truth. The writing stories sounds good, i can definately see myself doing that and i feel it would help.

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Originally Posted by Jove View Post
I recommend seeking a sales position. Excellent way to use your abilities.
^ lol
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