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Old 11-30-2010, 03:28 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia View Post
I think what you need to understand, levite, is that the modus operandi - the imperious attitude, the conviction that he inhabits a higher plane of consciousness unsullied by the basic nature exhibited by most other humans on the planet, the quite common hatred of women that is coupled with an equally passionate need to fuck them, the glamorization of paying for sex with, ehem, beautiful, young, Eastern European Hegre models - all of this plays into the gratification that he receives from his sex life. And his sex life is what is paramount in his life because he is sexually compulsive. Which is fine, you know. God forbid he does ever get the chance to fuck up some woman's life, lol.
Sure, of course, none of what you say is wrong, MM. I see the same things you do. And I think both of us know that I'm in no way defending the OP's views or rhetoric.

But I guess I just feel bad for him. And believe me, I am not suggesting you should feel the same. If nothing else, I presume that it is in some degree a privilege of maleness that I have the luxury of being able to put aside the distaste I feel for what the OP is saying, and focus on the compassion I feel for a man who has been so grievously wounded. I don't know that I could do the same if I were a woman.

But I guess for me, this kind of also pushes a professional button. I'm not the kind of rabbi for whom pastoral counseling is a career focus and true calling; but sometimes when it's right there...well, that's part of my responses.

And in some degree, I admit my compassion is based partly in the "there but for the grace of God go I" phenomenon. Because to some tiny extent, the OP is right in that, deep down in the hindbrain of all males lives the entirely selfish, savage, unrelenting desire for purely physical sexual pleasure, regardless of the expense to others. That's part and parcel of the reptilian primal drives that run our most animalistic brain. But it's the part of us that countless centuries of socialization and education and psychological work have wrested control from, and layered over with ethics, morality, empathy, and all the other things I mentioned to the OP.

I don't like what the OP says, or where he is coming from. But I respect its power: this is man, stripped, in some way, of civilization. And I pity him.
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