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Originally Posted by levite
Because you can spin your point any way you like it, but it still essentially boils down to a stew of psychological dysfunctions and misogyny. Doesn't mean I will try to talk you out of it. You've made your decisions about how you want to live your life. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us can't acknowledge that the choices you describe are unhealthy, misfounded, and aesthetically unpleasant.
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Define irony. A man posting on a forum that grew out of trading naked photos of women's bodies, ranting and raving about unhealthiness and aesthetics. I'm going to have a lot to say about this. The irony will only grow thicker as I write.
Pointing out that women have a desire to start a family, and that this life plan is concealed until the time is right. Warning other men that they do this is "misogyny"? No, I don't think it is.
Americans have in their brains a capacity for cognitive dissonance that is breathtaking in its scope. Even while the laws of their nations are completely senseless, they somehow are able to conversationally provide a botched justification for them. If you pay a woman for services in the privacy of your own home, she is a "prostitute" and the business transaction is a crime punishable with prison time. But if you invite three friends over and film the action, then presto, she is a "porn actress" and your act is legal. Not only legal; the material in the video camera can be uploaded at the website of your choosing.
There is a section of this forum dedicated to nude photography. I am a huge admirer of this kind of thing, and I have had the pleasure of seeing the inside of the business in at least a small way. I'm huge fan of Petter Hegre. Grigori Galitsin was the original genius, but his work is looking dated. In any case, the english-speaking world was not spearheading the radical changes made to erotic photography in and outside the internet. The americans had Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, all of which were alien to what Galitsin started doing in the first years of this decade.
I know there must be other admirers of this type of photography on this forum. I want to bring you guys a little bit behind the curtain of this business. Know that the vast majority of the girls you are looking at are from eastern europe. I guess I could ask you guys how long you expect to
"look at the catalog" before taking some assertive action in your life in the direction of what you like.
To tie this back into prostitution, know that these models are being payed to do work in front of the camera.
Money is exchanging hands for services. I ask, when Mr. Hegre was traveling in Kiev, Ukraine, where is it that you guys think he picked up these models? Do you think he went searching at the local library? Do you think he posted wanted ads outside of schools? Of course not. He walked straight into establishments where people were already working in the adult entertainment business. Yeah. He walked into strip clubs. Basically.
Go look at the photos posted in the
Erogenous Zone of this forum. Allow me to bring a reality check between you and the jpegs. Do you think that none of the girls in those photographs are strippers? No, some of them are. You don't think some of those girls are leveraging their immaculate bodies for a little bit more than mere photography? Dream on. Your mind is in Magical Candyland. Let me bring your mind back to earth. Some of them are.
Doubtlessly, some of you are going to go running to google to find out who
Grigori Galitsin is. Maybe one of you will notice he was getting models from massage salons in St. Petersburg. Then maybe, just maybe, you will come to realize how unrealistic your worldview is. But if you are american, such reflective thinking probably won't take place upstairs.
I will say to you Mr. levite, that your idea that you could lecture me on unhealthiness and aesthetics. That is the height of audacity. I can tell from your "slender, athletic frame" that I should be lecturing you on those things and not the other way around.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
You want to fuck women and lots of them.
Yay.
How postmodern of you. You're a decade or a few too late, however.
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You wildly misinterpreted my post. I was actually saying the opposite. I am a very choosy man with lots of really strange preferences. I disagree whole-heartedly with the idea that men have no choices because their cave man ancestors must spread their genes a lot. I'm very choosy.
I'm not going to grab curb-crawlers. Not my thing. Way too dangerous. And who is to say I actually want to fuck women? Maybe I don't. Maybe I prefer to photograph them or tie them up. How would you know? If I am going to photograph models, I am going to be be paying them anyway. And what better way to see what you might be buying. Modeling is an excuse to interact at a business level before committing to anything. It is a good alternative lifestyle that does not involve coercion. I openly promote it to all men.