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Old 11-26-2010, 05:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
robot_parade
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Location: San Antonio, TX
From my point of view, Makhnov, you're mixing two very distinct subjects. I think most of us here are focusing on your misogyny, because it's so blatant and over the top, but a couple of people have responded to your point about prostitution. Personally, I don't have an ethical problem with prostitution, so long as there's no victimization. Unfortunately, I think the evidence is pretty solid that a large percentage of prostitution does involve victimization, especially the sex tourism you refer to. If we take prostitution as simply an exchange of intimate services for money, I'm ok with that, and honestly thing it would be fun. Doesn't seem that different to me than paying for a massage, for instance. That is, assuming I weren't in a monogamous relationship, and that prostitution is illegal.

Unfortunately, prostitution much (perhaps most) of the time it involves the victimization of another human being. Personally, this puts it off-limits to me for ethical reasons, unless I were reasonably certain the exchange were made without coercion. Unfortunately, a fair amount of porn probably falls into the same ethical problems, and Rosy Palmer and her five sisters can attest that I make use of that quite a bit...so I'm not exactly the symbol of ethical purity on that count.

Now regarding the rest of your post...I'm seeing what I think is a bit of a logic problem in your arguments. If I understand you correctly, you claim that the very concept of a monogamous relationships are structured purely for the woman's benefit, and that women are manipulative in the extreme to control the men in these relationships. And yet you say you have the utmost respect for those men who chose to be in them. This doesn't make sense to me - you have respect for men that allow themselves to be crassly manipulated by the women in their lives, when "They willfully turn themselves into dogs begging for sex treats..."? How does that work, exactly.

Now, I think there's a bit of truth to some of the things you say. There are certainly lots of examples of women manipulating men with sex, just as there are lots of examples of men abusing women. What you seem to be arguing seems to me to be the exact mirror of a stereotypical rabid feminist arguing that 'all men are rapists'. In other words, I think you're generalizing your personal, negative, experience to every woman and every relationship between men and women.
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