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you can't torture someone and expect that the evidence you gather is admissible.
you can't torture people period.
but if you're in some ethics-challenged world inhabited by neo-cons and their pet dogs like ace here, you might be too blinkered to get with the injunction against torture, so the other one---which is that what you get from torture is worthless---might stop you.
so i'm all in favor of due process.
and the fact is that i'm as concerned that the bush people tried to throw the rules of post world war 1 civilization out the window because of their Outrage over the fact that it was the Mighty United of States The Greatest Empire in the History of Empires Full of the Most Virtuous People in the History of Virtue Who Live in the Most Amazing Way in the History of Amazingness that got attacked.
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a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle
spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear
it make you sick.
-kamau brathwaite
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