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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
The Navy. Yea I look back on it fondly, had a great time and circled the world twice but it's a form of slavery basically. During heavy training periods (preparing to deploy on West-Pac etc...) or courses like advanced firefighting, aviation fire fighting or a lengthy course in damage control and flooding- 17-20 hrs days were normal for days weeks at a time. Hitting your rack (bunk, bed whatever you want to call it) dead tired after putting out fires and stopping flooding for the last 15 hrs straight only to be awaken by the loud bangs of smoke grenades going off and hearing the instructors scream "Fire! Fire, Fire! Fire and flooding in space B-1-1. Move, move, move! Move NOW! After doing stuff like that for days at a time it becomes difficult to tie a basic square knot with the tar soaked cord used to help stop flooding from pipes. Forget cutting sections of shoring at the correct length. Flooding drills were always done in water so cold it made basic tasks seem complicated. Fire drills were done with fire, which tend to get hot also making problem solving difficult. Sleep and meals are at a premium.
Now I have no illusions some actual combat vets is going to read this and think "pussy." And to those of you who do let me just say you're right, I got nothing on you. During boot I use watch what they were doing to the recruits across the fence in San Diego at Marine Corp. boot and it made my life seem much easier. I can't even begin to imagine what combat must be like.
But when you go from being late to your fast food job and can't understand why the manager doesn't accept your reasoning that you were late becasue you over slept to suddenly be responsible for yourself in ever way it's an eye opener. But it will make an adult out of you. You will become responsible for yourself... or else.
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basically, echo echo echo...
i think everyone, as in EVERYONE, should have a compulsory two-year stint in one of the armed services - no excuses, no medical deferments, no bullshit - just serve under some of the assholes that are in there that end up in real life...
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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.
Last edited by uncle phil; 12-10-2010 at 02:21 PM..
Reason: wrong word...
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