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Originally Posted by roachboy
ace--->first off i have no problem with the last post i made. in one of the directions your usual shuck and jive leaked into earlier in the thread, you were declaring people "real americans" and unamerican---you know, that lame mccarthyite shit that seems to loom in the background with alot of far right discourse.
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Still insisting the far right is responsible for what happened to Democrats this past election?
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this in the midst of yet another demonstration of the reality-optional conservatism you espouse. don't like the evidence that the right media apparatus made up the nancy pelosi you don't like?
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My point has been that perhaps letting things be made up is a weakness.
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pretend it isn't there. don't like the polls that demonstrate your contention that the midterms represent some conservative renaissance is a figment of your imagination? pretend they aren't there.
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I did not make an issue of the polls, others did. What I think about the polls is not important to the issues in this thread. I know that, so whats the point?
it's always the same. what seems to matter is the avoidance of dissonance. it's like you write in order to flirt with it. but the game is to exclude it, over and over--so the movement in your positions is always lateral, a rearrangement of blocks. and you seem to conflate that with thinking.
at this point, much of this thread is a trail of exasperations.[/quote]
All I do here is share my views.
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but hey, why confront that when you can dodge it by whinging about my mod status?
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Was my point lost? Do I need to explain it? Let's just say there was a sophomoric response to a sophomoric post.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Ace, I guess another way to put it is that if you find yourself critical of market economies, free trade, and how capital is used, and if you'd rather see the economy organized a different way—a planned economy, for example—and that you'd rather see the nation's production organized from either the top down or via unions/councils, then you've probably left the centre entirely. If you would like to see a revolution to make this happen, then you've definitely left it.
With this in mind, Obama is obviously not a left-wing politician. He's a centrist. Centrists are more likely to support regulation and other forms of government intervention in a market economy. I don't think Obama is striving for a command economy, depsite what Tea Partiers would like us to believe.
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What I have been trying to say is Pres. Obama's approach is nothingness. In his eagerness to compromise or find a mythical center he fails to solve problems. On the economy it appears he has no real core belief or that his core belief is compromise. If true this fails - went met with those who have real core beliefs. If I walk into a negotiation knowing the other party is going to compromise, I win. I get what I want, because at the end of the day I won't give in.