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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Hey you're the one that brought up favoring a "Captain who would avoid running into an iceberg." I'd say leaving the country in economic free fall while fighting two unfunded wars was a pretty HUGE iceberg, no?
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No, I don't see it the way you do.
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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
Ace: Pelosi is not the chairman of the DCCC. Chris Van Hollen is - and he is stepping down, as he should.
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Not my point.
I think Obama and Congress failed to listen to the American people and they failed to make the case for their agenda. I see this as a failure in leadership, a failure at the top. I do understand that my opinion has no importance on this issue.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
It's pretty clear that there's a mostly standardized transparency used by various members of the right wing media to frame members of the opposition. I am highly confident that if Pelosi is replaced with someone else that transparency will be removed from her (maybe not removed, probably just copied), slightly modified, and then applied to her replacement. The problem isn't with Pelosi, but with the way she's portrayed to people who are predisposed to dislike her.
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Are you saying that those who don't like Pelosi are more effective than she is? If so, isn't that a problem? Wouldn't you want someone who can not only over come this problem, but be able to present the opposition in a unfavorable way.
Isn't national politics for adult participation? Is the "they are playing unfair" argument a worthy response? Is Pelosi less "political" than her opposition on the right?
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Pelosi is very good at what she does -- pushing through legislation and raising money.
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I don't think pushing through bad legislation is doing a very good job? Isn't there concern that as she pushed bad legislation she hurt her party and that is the reason many middle of the road Democrats lost their seat in the House?
Would she stop helping her party raise money, if not in leadership? How much money did she raise for Republicans? I remember a lot of material using the stop Obama/Pelosi agenda being used in commercials and mailers.