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Old 11-02-2010, 09:34 AM   #153 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
ace, so you're basically arguing that because there are racists whose racism is animated by fear that therefore it's legitimate to be a racist.
It is not legitimate to be racist.

Racism is a real condition, often caused by some irrational fear - there are other causes but that is not the issue here.

A racist condition can be changed.

An open and honest dialog is the best way to resolve a racist condition.

To the contrary, ridicule, attempt to silence, and pretense make the problem worse.

Why are these points not clear?

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so presumably to oppose racism is to discriminate against racists.
You are getting to the point of being absurd, because you know what my point is but you insist on putting effort into trying to mock my points. I consider this silliness. At some point I will most likely respond in-kind. Is this your goal?

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which would mean that you are defending the "right" of racists to be racist publicly---because you want to use this "argument" to oppose npr's firing of juan williams.
I was a young child when Malcom X was murdered. I have read his biography and many of his speeches. The man evolved in a manner for the world to see. At one point he was a racist. Before his death he was not. We benefited from his public evolution - so yes, I defend the "right" of a racist to be racist publicly. And as my grandmother told me - it is always better when racists are openly racist rather than having people be undercover racists. I stated the Williams termination is not the issue.

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so then there can be no problem with racism, really. instead, there should be some vague "dialogue" which would somehow "take seriously" the fears of racists and make them "feel better" about the things that prompt their racism. of course since there's neither form nor content to this "dialogue" we can only assume it'd be interminable.
Isn't easier just to read what I write? How much effort does it take for you to go through one of these exercises. Pure silliness.
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