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Originally Posted by Xerxys
No. I will not let you do that. You claimed that TFP engages in such distasteful behavior so the onus is on you to provide evidence of said performance. I will echo OCM and say, once again, TFP is the exact opposite of what you posited in your little "frog" commentary. Sarcasm intended or not, you were taking a shot.
Otherwise your just trolling us and we probably shouldn't engage.
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What you will or will not allow of me is interesting. Being a sport, I will, when the 4000+ pages of TFpolitics reappears find you an example. Or maybe not, I guess it depends on my mood at the time.
It's appropriate that the "Evolve or Die" thread would bring out the aggressive behaviors that seem to be the cause of the decline of the forum. Yes, I said aggressive. You did not just say you disagree or sight an example disproving my 'frog' thread. You tell me "I will not let you do that", "the onus is on you". Who are you to dictate what others may or may not do or say? Disagreeing with someone is inevitable, telling someone you won't allow them to do something is aggressive. Frankly, if you're unicorns and rainbows experience here was indicative of the norm, this thread likely wouldn't have been started. To jump up and demand satisfaction is insulting and offensive.
Of course it was sarcastic and it was a shot. What else would it be? Did you think someone actually had that conversation? Okay, maybe Plan9 would have that conversation, but not this time.
No, the example is not indicative of the entire forum. As I said above, I should have titled it 'Average TFPolitics thread'. That's where I've spent most of my time and with what I'm most familiar.
And so here I sit, after typing my OPINION in response to the OP, defending my opinion?????? Do you really wonder why it's in decline. Really?? So, No, there is no onus on me to provide evidence of my opinion. If you don't like it, don't read it. If you can't help reading, don't reply, if you can't help but reply, don't expect anyone to follow your demands.
I understand loving something and defending it, but when something is broken and opinions are solicited to improve and repair it. The appropriate response is to evaluate the criticism, formulate a resolution and implement a plan to correct the problem. Not claim everything is Sunshine and Roses to you, so everyone else better prove their opposing experience.
Once again, it's not about disagreeing with someone, it's how you disagree with them. And while their may be a core group who understands each others postures, no one else does. Leading us to where we are now. Once again an outsider defending an opinion to the core elite.
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"Why? Well in the beginning it was because I was intimidated. I then tried posting more as I became more comfortable with the people on the site. I am not someone who is afraid to voice my opinion, that is until someone takes what I say out of context or twists it to suit their own point. While I have no problem being outspoken, I do have a problem beating my head against a wall trying to defend myself for something I did not really say. Problem is, people seem to assume the worst about others and thus misinterpret posts and even thread starters (ie feminine vs female, this is not meant as a jab, just an example on the top of my head).
The last issue I see is that many threads break down into an incestuous circle jerk. While it is amusing to read, there is not much point in trying to respond to the OP if no one is going to read that when the circus side show is so much more entertaining."
The above is a quote by Starkizzer a forum member who's been here much longer than I. This last paragraph is exactly what my 'frog' thread is all about. I know I'm not the only one who sees it. The point being all along, that this is what most new people see too. That is your core dynamic.