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Originally Posted by james t kirk
No Gullt has been proven?
Please...he confessed to murder and terrorism. If he didn't do it, then don't confess. His very own account fits the version told by the US soldiers as well. He was the only guy left standing in that compound. I guess if there isn't a video of him doing it - neither of you will believe it. You both WANT to believe he's innocent, but did it ever occur to you that well, maybe he IS guilty of murder.
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I never said I wanted him to be innocent. I wanted him to have access to justice. In case you don't know, a plea bargain includes conditions. The condition to stating not guilty would subject him to a farce of an already farcical "justice" procedure.
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Khadr has NEVER expressed once ANY regret for what he has done, and I'm not just talking about killing the US medic in question, I'm talking about making and planting road side bombs, participating in terrorist activities, idolizing Terrorists, his utter disdain for Western Society. This guy is a dyed in the woold terrorist. There is no doubt of that.
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Yeah, and the odd thing is that, for some reason, it's easy to deny the fact that he was child. And as an aside, I don't think "dyed in the wool" is found in any official terminology. Where did you get that? Is it Freudian? It sounds older than that. Either way, it sounds like sheepshit.
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Your continued arguing for this Terrorist is based on your passion and not on facts. You want to make him some sort of poster boy against the American led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. To the entire American populace, Omar is not worth getting riled up about. He's a murdering Terrorist and the facts and his very own confession support that. He's no different than approximately 3,000 other Canadians sitting in foreign jails. I don't see either of you getting all worked up about that. Nowhere in the Constitution does simply being Canadian guarantee you a get out of jail free card.
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I'm sorry, your first sentence here is ridiculous. It makes you look like you have little clue as to what I've written thus far. Not only that, but it's painfully ironic. Have you any idea what my position is? For a while now, it seemed like you don't know what my position on this matter is. Now I'm convinced. You really don't know my position on this. Also, you are misrepresenting the statements I've made about this issue. This isn't only disrespectful, but it kind of pisses me off. Do you honestly think I regard the Constitution as such? Give me a break. Under normal circumstances, I would have kindly asked you to reread my posts in this thread, but you know what? I know it will just be a waste of time. You clearly either a) cannot comprehend what I wrote or b) are intentionally misrepresenting my position. This brings me to the conclusion that you have no interest in an actual reasonable discussion of the issues I have raised. This is because you seem to refuse to address them and go off on your own political agenda.
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Frankly, the entire "Free Omar" debate is virtually out of gas now.
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I'm not a part of any debate regarding his freedom; I want him to have access to the same justice I'd want for you and me.
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He did it. He killed an unarmed medic, and he is a murdering treasonous terrorist.
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This is unproven. A plea bargain is not a verdict. Some would call it a scare tactic.
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But just out of curiousity.....answer me this one question.
Hypothetically speaking......
What if Omar really did kill the unarmed American Medic?
In both your humble opinions - what should happen to him?
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I already answered this question a long time ago---multiple times. I'm not answering it again. It's all in the thread. Honestly, how do you not know this?