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					Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru  Tully, what are you talking about? Cavemen didn't have the horrific, nightmarish tools of war that we do today. 
 It's not that nothing changes; it's that things get worse.
 
 For fuck's sake, just look at the 20th century.
 
 Now, more than ever, we need to know what the hell is going on.
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 Oh the weapons change the degree of carnage has changed but we're still trying to solve our problems by killing each other. 
I agree we should know what's going on.  I really don't see anything in these leaks that I didn't already believe to be true.  Raise your hand if you honestly believed we weren't torturing people.  Raise your hand if you thought there weren't a whole lot more civilian causalities then the DOD was reporting.  So I guess they verify to some degree.  But I also believe some, maybe a lot, are inaccurate when taken at face value.   A lot of these are field reports given in the fog of war.  Plus they concern me in that they may be putting more troops at risk.  I know we're done with Iraq and it's over over there but I keep getting e-mails from friends who seem to still be there.  I like not to put them in any more danger then they already are.