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roachboy · 10-25-2010, 10:21 AM

right, plan 9. i'm sure there are, just as i'm also sure that there are alot of people dead for nothing.

and just as i'm also sure that from the point of view of the use of torture as an instrument to attempt social control that the new boss was pretty much the same as the old boss. but hey, what's a few war crimes? war is heck. and to point out those----ooopsie daisy!-----war crimes...why that's just complaining.

but i'm sure you're right that there are people who think it's just swell that the united states fabricated a case for war and then launched it. for example, i'm sure those fine folk at xe/blackwater are still kinda psyched about the whole thing. and you're right: those important perspectives are being ignored when people read the wikileaks cache.

that's because civilians are like parents in that old dj jazzy jeff/fresh prince track.
they just don't understand.

and so you're no doubt correct that it really is the exclusive purview of people who were in iraq to talk about the politics of the war, to talk about the political realities that shape it and the information that we've been given.

because we really ought to be focusing on the good stuff.
like the case for war in the first place could have been an even more shabby piece of shit than it was.
and like that there were only 100,000 civilians killed and not, say, 200,000.
that is a good thing.
glass half full, dontcha know.
accentuate the positive.
war is peace.

except not all wars are equal. and this war was less equal than most. that's because it was unnecessary. launched for no reason, really, apart from the imperialist fever dreams of those fellows at the project for a new american century. i'd think you'd be more than a little pissed off about that, getting stuck in harms way for no real reason. i would think you'd want to understand how the fuck that was possible. but i'm just sitting on my couch. what do i know?

10-25-2010, 10:21 AM	#28 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	right, plan 9. i'm sure there are, just as i'm also sure that there are alot of people dead for nothing. and just as i'm also sure that from the point of view of the use of torture as an instrument to attempt social control that the new boss was pretty much the same as the old boss. but hey, what's a few war crimes? war is heck. and to point out those----ooopsie daisy!-----war crimes...why that's just complaining. but i'm sure you're right that there are people who think it's just swell that the united states fabricated a case for war and then launched it. for example, i'm sure those fine folk at xe/blackwater are still kinda psyched about the whole thing. and you're right: those important perspectives are being ignored when people read the wikileaks cache. that's because civilians are like parents in that old dj jazzy jeff/fresh prince track. they just don't understand. and so you're no doubt correct that it really is the exclusive purview of people who were in iraq to talk about the politics of the war, to talk about the political realities that shape it and the information that we've been given. because we really ought to be focusing on the good stuff. like the case for war in the first place could have been an even more shabby piece of shit than it was. and like that there were only 100,000 civilians killed and not, say, 200,000. that is a good thing. glass half full, dontcha know. accentuate the positive. war is peace. except not all wars are equal. and this war was less equal than most. that's because it was unnecessary. launched for no reason, really, apart from the imperialist fever dreams of those fellows at the project for a new american century. i'd think you'd be more than a little pissed off about that, getting stuck in harms way for no real reason. i would think you'd want to understand how the fuck that was possible. but i'm just sitting on my couch. what do i know? __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 10-25-2010 at 10:24 AM..