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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
To assume that you are right, Ace and otto, I would have assume that there is a real, substantial and influential liberal power base in this country with the power to make changes in accordance with liberal ideals. I don't. I don't think there has been that kind of liberal power in the US in many decades. I think there is just exactly the amount of liberal influence in this country that is allowed to be. Therefore the idea of a 'liberal war' against anything having to do with the status quo is ridiculous.
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On a serious note, the use of the term "war" is a bit of hyperbole, however given two opposing ideologies regardless of which one holds the advantage there is an inherent conflict. The conflict is going to be most volatile where the two meet. For example DADT - 20 years ago the issue was not a volatile issue for most now it is. another one of those issues that is prominent today is the conflict between religious freedom and religious extremist who want to exploit those freedoms in the context of 9/11 and Muslims. Hence the problem with the Juan Williams termination. Was he terminated for honestly having conflicted feelings, feelings shared by many, or was he terminated because he shared those feelings? It is my view that unless people can openly talk through issues, those issues can never be resolved. Also, in my view another one of those issues is the irrational response liberals have to Fox News. Williams was in the lions den, so to speak, and he held his own he made a difference. More liberals should take this approach rather than doing what they do.
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It seems to me, rather, that conservatives need a 'liberal war' (much like they have needed all wars) in order to keep moving the status quo further and further to the right - which is exactly what is happening.
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If true, why does Obama single out Fox News and other conservative outlets. If liberals are above the conflict why do they over-react? Why doe some members in Congress want to restrict conservatives on radio or as they would say offer balance? Seems to me they are trying to put up a good fight.
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Originally Posted by supersix2
...but if I were a journalist on a news network I would have to be careful about what I say so I don't influence others with my prejudices. NPR may have certain standards for its employees and if they feel an employee is no longer living up to their standards because of that person's actions or words then they have the right to fire that employee. Any other job is going to have similar codes of conduct.
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I don't think it is possible for a journalist or anyone else to ignore their personal biases and be truly objective. Do you?
I have listened to NPR and they clearly have a left bias, they are not objective. what standards are we really talking about?
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Originally Posted by roachboy
ace, your pet theory about "liberal fear" is like the sweet nothings you might say to yourself as you choke the bishop.
"o you are so big and so mighty, you are so manly and strong. all others tremble before you...."
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I gave what I thought. I illustrated the pattern I see. I gave the conclusion I drew from the information available to me. If you disagree, or have a different point of view, share it.
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it takes that kind of imagination to conflate contempt for faux news and everything it stands for with fear.
a hyperbolic imagination.
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Like imagination is a bad thing???The ability to see what is not clearly evident has often served me well, try it. It does take courage to share with others what you can see but others can not. It will subject you to ridicule, but I must say, when the image becomes clear to everyone and you where the first to see it - it is a good feeling.
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i think fox news is a travesty. it was a significant professional blunder for williams to appear on fox programs because on the one hand it legitimates a conservative travesty and on the other it undermines the professional image of npr as a news gathering organization.
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Who knew Williams did work for NPR? Who cared? However, him being on Fox News was meaningful.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Apparently, he was warned before about making statements on other media outlets that he wouldn't make on his own.
It seems he crossed the line---again---and was fired for it this time.
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And now perhaps tax payers will get their say and end any public funding.