<FONT COLOR=”red”>I would also agree with popo's statement, in theory- I just don't see how, despite all the talk about it, how it is actually possible to make 2 sovereign countries west of the Jordan.
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This was a little unclear in you categorizing popo’s statement as workable in theory and then go on to offer yours in contrast. The contrast I concluded was of course my own interpretation of what you are saying, but I know what you are saying; its the only reason I posted again in this thread. I don’t understand why you would put what popo stated into that context and then go on to say what you did. Is that your version of a workable theory?
<FONT COLOR=”red”>Since it was the Palestinians who walked away from the peace talks, and who have overwhelmingly supported truly sickening terrorism against innocent people, I think that it is their side that should pack up and leave. </FONT COLOR>
I’ll debate this all night, but judging from what you said it would be useless.
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Israel is less than 1% of the landmass in the middle east. The arab world is not only humongous, but in many places very underpopulated. The world should set up a palestinian state somewhere else, where both parties then will be able to live in peace, without the risk and overwhelming likelihood of all out war. Also, the reason the Palestinians hate Israel so much is mostly jealousy- watching the Jews come and build a 1st world country in 20 years, when in the arab countries there is no economic infrastructure except for oil, which keeps the autocratic governments riding high on the hog while the normal people are barely able to feed their families. Giving them their own country will only fan the fire here, since at least they can tell themselves(as they do) that the real reason their society and economy is so backwards is because of their lack of political independence, as opposed to corruption and political manipulation by their leaders (and skimming off the top- Arafat has a personal fortune of over $300 Million). </FONT COLOR>
The first part of this is rationalization that I see as being so ________ _______ ______
I’m at a loss for words and frankly as intelligent as you sound I don’t know why you would even go there.
The second part. . . . . ./takes a deep breath. . . . .
Backwards economy huh? I would tell you the figure, but perhaps when you have a moment you could find these numbers (it may sink in a little more, but perhaps not)
1. How much the US has given Israel in total?
2. How much the US gave Israel last year?
3. How much the US gives to Israel per day?
4. Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments?
5. Interest Costs Borne by U.S.?
6. Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers?
7. How much more Sharon is requesting this year on top the aid already given?
Backwards economy? You mention Arafat’s corruption, yet you don’t mention Sharon almost getting thrown out by his own Israeli citizens for being corrupt. I’m sure you remember when they cut him off on TV. I don’t see this as being “some fringe Israelis”
I asked you before if you considered yourself a Zionist, you stated you support the Zionist movement, but are not one yourself. Why not?
Can we once again trade websites? Could you please provide a website you feel is a good representation of Zionist philosophy?
Even though you probably see this a fringe Jewish site I still think its worth a moment of your time, and maybe a little more.
http://www.fmep.org/
I don’t have a clear thought of what should take place if Hamas sees the entire area as Palestine; Israel should have the right to exist. I also see uprooting an indigenous population out of its homeland with force to be an act of conquest. Conquest is not innocent and has never been without a price as hardly anything in this world is.