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Old 10-20-2010, 09:57 AM   #20 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70 View Post
ace: assuming your statements are correct (most people love to think they're immune to the things you mentioned, but study after study proves otherwise), you are the exception not the norm. Not by a long shot.
I would like to see those studies.

I agree that money may be a reason that a person may or may not run for office, and that can have an influence over my choices - but for example the Green Party could spend $100 billion dollars on the next election and I will never be in line with their views. My father has been a Democrat for the last 50 years, it would not matter how much secrete money big business gives to a Republican Candidate he is going to vote for the guy he thinks is best for "labor". He is a union man to the core, I am not even sure he would vote for me.

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
I'm willing to believe ace, to an extent. He mentioned not being influenced in terms of his vote. I'm assuming he would only vote for those who share his values, and that it should be fairly clear whether a politician poses with those values or not.

He didn't state that he isn't influenced by money and media in other ways. We all are.

I'm also assuming he doesn't get all his information from TV, or, worse, a single TV show. I can't say the same for others.

EDIT: As an aside, I don't believe him when he calls this much ado about nothing. That assumes that undecided swing voters are nothing, among other things.
People vote for candidates for many reasons, I doubt who their donors are or how much money they spend is a primary concern. Often, big money candidates loose.

I am going to assume no one here is going to say their vote is for sale, do you know people where that would be true?

I do know people who vote on non-partisan elections, i.e. judges, school board, etc. who admit to doing silly things when making a choice - but that diminishes for statewide or national office.

I can imagine if I were homeless and someone was willing to give me cash, I would certainly vote and take the cash, but then they would not have a guarantee that I would vote the way they wanted - and given my personality I would vote for the other guy.

Again, I conclude this is a non-issue, and if it is - for ever movement in one direction there would be a movement in the other, canceling any real impact.
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