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Old 10-12-2010, 08:21 PM   #40 (permalink)
ASU2003
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Location: Back in Ohio
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Originally Posted by Slims View Post
There is no way it's less costly for (deadbeats) to purchase brand-name (unnecessary) soft drinks in order to meet their caloric requirements than to simply hand out a loaf of moldy bread and some cheese. Or, for that matter, a 50 pound bag of potatoes which were on sale for $10.99 at my local farmers market recently...That will feed a lot of people for a while.

There is no ethical problem either....If you want a free handout it should be on our terms. you have no right to 'expect' Coca Cola or the ability to sell your food stamps.

Even better: If you want to eat you have to assist with the distribution of said food items free of charge. Basically: If you want to eat the soup you need to work in the kitchen, at least occasionally.

As far as I am concerned I think it is ethically preferable to provide no public services whatsoever than to continue on the way things currently are. A good percentage of food-stamps and welfare are used to purchase drugs, rims, and flat-screen TV's....How is that ethical? I get shot at to earn my money, and I would much rather spend it on my daughters education, paying off student loan debt, etc. than on someone who is too lazy to work.

I feel much more charitable to those who live a truly spartan existence and are still struggling. However my house backs up to subsidized housing and at least in my neighborhood, every trailer has a crappy car with an expensive paint job/rims and the owners are home at all times of the (work) day* watching TV, drinking, throwing bottles in the yard, selling drugs, and generally being parasites.

They can go piss up a rope if they want to claim it is unethical for me to give them food rather than what equates to money.

Lastly, if I/we (via the government) are going to take my or anyone else' earned money and give it away to a third party, it is perfectly ethical to place any restrictions on it we want to...such as don't use my money to eat your way to type 2 diabetes which I will also have to pay for.

Don't like it? Great, then don't take the handout.

It is unethical and wasteful to give away what belongs to someone else. Inexcusably so when you give away more than the bare minimum they really need.
I will agree that there needs to be more regulations on social programs. And I think that there should be a white list of what can be bought, or rationed out.

And, I also think that they should have to do community service, go into the fields and work for a few weeks, or distribute the food if they want to receive benefits.


I just wonder if I lost my job, would I be eligible? I have enough money to survive for 3-4 years saved up, but would they make me sell stocks, sell off material items, or sell my house before qualifying? Then again, I've heard that pilots are getting food stamps because they don't have a high enough salary.


*People do work second or third shifts.
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