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Originally Posted by aceventura3
How is that possible? If politics involves influencing collective public actions or views, I disagree. I can agree that not all union or lobbyist work to influence national politics - but by definition they exist to influence something or to have some kind of impact, and if "politics" in a public manner is required there must be engagement to fulfill the purpose. If a union exist for its members to play card games, I would not actually call it a union - it is a social club.
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I don't want to get too bogged down in semantics, but when I used the word politics, I meant:
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...the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power:
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definition of politics from Oxford Dictionaries Online
Many unions only exist to ensure that managers don't exploit their workers with unfair wages or treatment. They don't ever interact with politicians on any level, they don't have anything to do with public policy, and they don't hire lobbyists. Their interaction with the government begins and ends with paying taxes. In that way, they're nothing at all like lobbyists.