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Old 09-30-2010, 01:55 PM   #270 (permalink)
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Is it your position, that "man" has never had an original idea? Your statement is confusing to me.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Yes. As much as I hate to quote the Bible, King Solomon said that there is nothing new under the sun. Ideas don't spring from nothing. They're based on a synthesis of experience and speculation, often brought about by a problem or an opportunity. You can take any idea imaginable and trace it back to another source. It's not like the Big Bang every time someone comes up with something.
I look for core elements that are the true foundation of disagreement, this may be one. I don't understand your point of view. I am sure you and I are not the only one's with an opinion on this point and I would love to read what others have to say. Ironically, I bet if there was a survey of Tea Party people compared to non-Tea Party people, there would be a division similar to ours on this point.

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Here's something to consider: not all unions are even political.
How is that possible? If politics involves influencing collective public actions or views, I disagree. I can agree that not all union or lobbyist work to influence national politics - but by definition they exist to influence something or to have some kind of impact, and if "politics" in a public manner is required there must be engagement to fulfill the purpose. If a union exist for its members to play card games, I would not actually call it a union - it is a social club.
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