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Old 09-14-2010, 05:43 AM   #221 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars View Post
Most of those who whine about socialism taking over the US couldn't pass a freshmen high school test defining socialism is my guess. But you get clowns like Beck using his caulk board to detail to you how John Rockefeller was really red commie bastard and reality flies out the window.

Really as long as things continue down this path I think things could get really bizarre. I read some of what a few of the tea party candidates want and really they want to end a bunch of federal programs. Everything from Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, the public school system to the FDA to the IRS. And obviously the new health care program. I wonder how many of the folks cheering them on would be ok with suddenly having to pay for their kids to attend school? Or I often see people of retirement age at these rallies, do they seriously want their SS and medicare to disappear? Most of the time when I speak to people on this side of the fence it really comes down to them wanting smaller government... for other people. They want their SS, they want their medicare. I'd be willing to bet most would want health care or unemployment if they suddenly needed it too. I'm damn well willing to bet they want the police and or fire dept. to show when they call too. Everything costs money. The military, lots of money there. Roads and infrastructure. Hell even getting rid of your shit cost money. Are the tea party folks going to start building their own sewer systems?

I think we seriously need more choices when we vote. For years it's been the lesser of two evils, which has been pointed out is still evil. But we need people with serious ideas for these serious problems. I don't think Beck, Palin and the tea party folks have any ideas that will not cause more harm then good.
tully,

I think you stating that Beck, Palin and tea party candidates want people to have to build their own sewer systems is pretty much identical to the "lies" that you believe Beck to be telling. You may be losing your perceived moral high ground on the matter.

If you would like to discuss a Libertarian philosophy on how these systems remain in place but are removed from the Federal purview, I would certainly love to talk to you about that - perhaps in PMs.
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