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Cimarron29414 · 09-13-2010, 08:09 AM

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I share a similar personal reaction to Jones' actions. I also feel an urgency of "Somebody - ANYBODY - do something to keep this from being the face of America that Islam sees!" Especially, when this is definitely not the face of America. I also must concede that these actions almost universally fall at the feet of conservatives. Love thy neighbor be damned.

I think most of the anger I feel regarding this event is the media coverage. Stupid people do stupid symbolic things in this country all the time. Why the media picks this up and runs with it 24/7 (I'm talking to you Foxnews) just shows "there's good money in controversy," regardless of the damage it causes. One small man doing one small act is undeserving of this exposure.

I really want this guy's congregation, his neighbors, family, or his regional society to squash this. In my fantasy solution, I see him lighting the lighter and everyone in the crowd throwing a water balloon at him - something which exposes the ridiculous act he proposes with an equally ridiculous act....turning his twisted carnival-show behavior into a universal response of STFU through humiliation.

Where I get nervous is if the "anybody" discouraging his speech is a government entity. You and I will agree we have different levels of trust in our government, and while I would like to trust them to suppress stuff like this and still let you and me rally/protest other things - it feels like a pandora's box. To bolster your case, I would probably point to the evidence of the Dutch cartoonist. In that event there seems to be evidence to support incitement, especially since this pastor is capable of seeing that that act caused death and destruction. Perhaps, that would be enough to justify "state" reaction. I'll have to chew on that...

Anyway, I can tell you've struggled with this since you don't typically take such a finite or absolute approach at solutions.

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09-13-2010, 08:09 AM	#179 (permalink)
Cimarron29414 Still Free Location: comfortably perched at the top of the bell curve!	rb- I share a similar personal reaction to Jones' actions. I also feel an urgency of "Somebody - ANYBODY - do something to keep this from being the face of America that Islam sees!" Especially, when this is definitely not the face of America. I also must concede that these actions almost universally fall at the feet of conservatives. Love thy neighbor be damned. I think most of the anger I feel regarding this event is the media coverage. Stupid people do stupid symbolic things in this country all the time. Why the media picks this up and runs with it 24/7 (I'm talking to you Foxnews) just shows "there's good money in controversy," regardless of the damage it causes. One small man doing one small act is undeserving of this exposure. I really want this guy's congregation, his neighbors, family, or his regional society to squash this. In my fantasy solution, I see him lighting the lighter and everyone in the crowd throwing a water balloon at him - something which exposes the ridiculous act he proposes with an equally ridiculous act....turning his twisted carnival-show behavior into a universal response of STFU through humiliation. Where I get nervous is if the "anybody" discouraging his speech is a government entity. You and I will agree we have different levels of trust in our government, and while I would like to trust them to suppress stuff like this and still let you and me rally/protest other things - it feels like a pandora's box. To bolster your case, I would probably point to the evidence of the Dutch cartoonist. In that event there seems to be evidence to support incitement, especially since this pastor is capable of seeing that that act caused death and destruction. Perhaps, that would be enough to justify "state" reaction. I'll have to chew on that... Anyway, I can tell you've struggled with this since you don't typically take such a finite or absolute approach at solutions. OurCrazyModern - ??? __________________ Gives a man a halo, does mead. "Here lies The_Jazz: Killed by an ambitious, sparkly, pink butterfly." Last edited by Cimarron29414; 09-13-2010 at 08:15 AM..