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roachboy · 09-13-2010, 04:02 AM

well, i shall certainly undertake a period of profound soul-searching. knowing that my posts can be chopped up and presented to look as though i am saying things i'm not saying...gee, what thinking person wouldn't retreat to the mountain?

first the distinction incitement/provocation--yes there is this distinction. given the interpol announcement of last wednesday that jones' action would have prompted more "terrorist" attacks on the united states, going forward would seem to me to move out of the space of protected speech and into that of public safety.
but i thought it more fun to push at incitement because for the argument to work, you'd have to position terry jones as a "terrorist".
which would mean that you'd have to be thinking rather than being merely pedantic.
good luck with that.

second, because of the public safety concerns, i would have expected legal action would have been taken and that ultimately it would have turned into a legal battle that would have been really problematic and would in all likelihood have turned terry jones into some right-wing martyr of free speech if the ultra-right political estabishment could stomach making a martyr out of a racist who doesnt try to pretend he isnt one.

and i was aware of the tensions within my own position on that. but to know that you'd have had to move beyond cherry-picking. but that's not how you roll.

third, as for the facile conclusion that i am "blinded by my own hate" i would say that given the way you butchered my positions that you doth protest too much.

and context matters. for the posts to make sense, context matters. but butchering is so easy.

your "position"" appears to be that it's a problem to suppress fascism because it deprives fascists of the "right" to be fascist.

so i have a problem with racism.
ooo that must make me a bad person.

so i have a problem with fascism.
oooo that must make me a bad person.

i feel just terrible about that.

and i assume that you as a racist and a fascist will sleep better now knowing that your speech rights are no longer threatened by posts from pol pot on a message board.

any idiot can play this game, lindy dear.

09-13-2010, 04:02 AM	#175 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	well, i shall certainly undertake a period of profound soul-searching. knowing that my posts can be chopped up and presented to look as though i am saying things i'm not saying...gee, what thinking person wouldn't retreat to the mountain? first the distinction incitement/provocation--yes there is this distinction. given the interpol announcement of last wednesday that jones' action would have prompted more "terrorist" attacks on the united states, going forward would seem to me to move out of the space of protected speech and into that of public safety. but i thought it more fun to push at incitement because for the argument to work, you'd have to position terry jones as a "terrorist". which would mean that you'd have to be thinking rather than being merely pedantic. good luck with that. second, because of the public safety concerns, i would have expected legal action would have been taken and that ultimately it would have turned into a legal battle that would have been really problematic and would in all likelihood have turned terry jones into some right-wing martyr of free speech if the ultra-right political estabishment could stomach making a martyr out of a racist who doesnt try to pretend he isnt one. and i was aware of the tensions within my own position on that. but to know that you'd have had to move beyond cherry-picking. but that's not how you roll. third, as for the facile conclusion that i am "blinded by my own hate" i would say that given the way you butchered my positions that you doth protest too much. and context matters. for the posts to make sense, context matters. but butchering is so easy. your "position"" appears to be that it's a problem to suppress fascism because it deprives fascists of the "right" to be fascist. so i have a problem with racism. ooo that must make me a bad person. so i have a problem with fascism. oooo that must make me a bad person. i feel just terrible about that. and i assume that you as a racist and a fascist will sleep better now knowing that your speech rights are no longer threatened by posts from pol pot on a message board. any idiot can play this game, lindy dear. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 09-13-2010 at 04:09 AM..