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roachboy · 09-12-2010, 03:45 PM

as denominations, xtian identity is a pretty tiny operation. it is explicitly racist and if memory serves is among the anglo-israelites, which is one of the more zany american protestant derivatives. the founder built the 900 ft jesus outside of hot springs arkansas. shows the depth of roots of this particular combo. war and the other explicit racist organizations are also quite small.

what i think is more a problem is the continued efficacy of the christian coalition period mobilization across the whole spectrum of southern baptist and other evangelical churches along with a general drift into dangerously reactionary territory of the tea partiers (brought to you by koch brothers inc.)

this particular situation, the fantasy of the "ground zero mosque" the repellent usage of this fiction as a mobilizing tool for the ultra-right---i think this shows the problems that are raised by the above. i still think that across this there's an institutional conflict playing out for control over the conservative movement. what's interesting about it is the degree to which this conflict is masked by populist rightwing politics--i wonder sometimes about faux news in particular, which seems to be playing all sides of the conflict probably figuring that's the only way to protect their bidness model (that really should be illegal, but that's another matter)

so i think the danger here is the migration of a neo-fascist populist ideology into the center of conservative politics, supported by a well-funded media apparatus, that borrows heavily from the languages and paranoias of fundamentalist christianity as an aspect of an ongoing articulation of an identity politics. the other danger follows from a "free press" that remains in the main on its knees before the right to the extent that they increasingly whacked out political memes are covered as if they were legitimate. the "ground zero mosque" is a creation of this press-specific dynamic.

it's depressing.

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roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	as denominations, xtian identity is a pretty tiny operation. it is explicitly racist and if memory serves is among the anglo-israelites, which is one of the more zany american protestant derivatives. the founder built the 900 ft jesus outside of hot springs arkansas. shows the depth of roots of this particular combo. war and the other explicit racist organizations are also quite small. what i think is more a problem is the continued efficacy of the christian coalition period mobilization across the whole spectrum of southern baptist and other evangelical churches along with a general drift into dangerously reactionary territory of the tea partiers (brought to you by koch brothers inc.) this particular situation, the fantasy of the "ground zero mosque" the repellent usage of this fiction as a mobilizing tool for the ultra-right---i think this shows the problems that are raised by the above. i still think that across this there's an institutional conflict playing out for control over the conservative movement. what's interesting about it is the degree to which this conflict is masked by populist rightwing politics--i wonder sometimes about faux news in particular, which seems to be playing all sides of the conflict probably figuring that's the only way to protect their bidness model (that really should be illegal, but that's another matter) so i think the danger here is the migration of a neo-fascist populist ideology into the center of conservative politics, supported by a well-funded media apparatus, that borrows heavily from the languages and paranoias of fundamentalist christianity as an aspect of an ongoing articulation of an identity politics. the other danger follows from a "free press" that remains in the main on its knees before the right to the extent that they increasingly whacked out political memes are covered as if they were legitimate. the "ground zero mosque" is a creation of this press-specific dynamic. it's depressing. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite