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Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth
A centrist to me isn't somebody who sits on the fence over big issues but is usually more likely to be open to ideas coming from either side instead of dismissing them out right because of the letter next to the name. But often once they do decide which side they agree with on any given issue they tend to hold firm on that belief...sort of like a person who is maybe pro gun and pro choice or fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
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Like a Libertarian? I was in the Libertarian Party once, I did not consider them to be centrists.
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Anyway I actually know a lot of socialists...I especially knew a lot of them when I was younger and in college but I think the ideology is often so at odds with our way of life as they grow older they simply adapt to the system and "socialist" is slowly replaced with the much broader "liberal"
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Are you saying their personal greed for money, property and individual security sort of takes over, but that they still want to balance that with trying to control other people's, money, property and individual security?
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
I don't want to write a treatise on modern liberalism in a thread about Glenn Beck, but to put it in a nutshell, liberals tend to support the idea of a social safety net...
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I support a safety net for people, I don't speak for Beck but I bet he does too. the difference is in the details of the safety net and who/how it is administered.
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Originally Posted by Pearl Trade
Centrist in the big picture. If you add all of his policies up and what his take is on issues, he is a centrist. Of course if you break it down to any specific issue, you'll find he is either one or the other, more liberal or more conservative.
I think that's what Baraka was saying.
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Here is the visual picture a centrist presents to me based on what you wrote:
A drunkard trying to get from point A to point B wildly weaving left to right and right to left, at the end perhaps you can look back and say his travel was in the center of the road, but I don't see it that way. So for example, to have a guy talk about social justice but do nothing about "don't ask, don't tell", may mean to you that he is centrist, but to me it says he lack conviction and has no real core values. You either support social justice and equal rights for all or you don't. Obama is the President, he needs to act like it - he needs to be decisive not a centrist.