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Old 09-08-2010, 11:19 AM   #83 (permalink)
The_Dunedan
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I agree because I do not think that people should lose their lives so that somebody can have the freedom to burn a holy text and cause massive offensive to the followers of the second most popular religion in the world.
Here's a thought: instead of banning childish temper-tantrums and idiotic publicity stunts that do not concretely harm anybody and can easily be ignored by adults, why not make it against the law to kill people who say things you don't like?

And here's ANOTHER thought: lots of people HAVE died, for that exact right. I think y'all over there call them "Tommies." You know, average British, French, American, Australian and New Zealander soldiers. Then there's the spies, the partizans, and all the folks who helped any way they could. -THEY- died for that right in a little spat we over here like to call World War Two.

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It would be nice if they could be ignored as morons that they are, if there was not this inherent hyper-sensitivity inherent in many Islamic states...
So instead of acting like adults and ignoring these idiots, you advocate that freedom of speech be restricted so as not to risk offending another bunch of even -bigger- idiots? What next? Who will be the -next- group to realize that if you pitch a big enough bitch, make enough of a ruckus, destroy enough property and kill enough people...YOU'LL be the one whose sensitivities are respected? How does that work? Morons get offended, riot and kill people, burn shit down and blow shit up...yet THEY'RE the ones we're supposed to refrain from offending? THEY get the consideration? We're supposed to give up Freedom Of Speech, one of the cornerstones of the Anglo-American tradition of political free agency and liberty...in order not to offend a pack of stone-age radicals who regard mutilating teenage girls as some kind of "justice?"

This "Pastor" is a fucking moron. But the idea that his non-violent* free speech should be legally curtailed because some jackass somewhere -might- take offense or act wrongly as a result...I have no words for how disgusting that is, as an idea and as a fact.

Edited To Add: There exists a possibility, if not likelihood, that Neo-Islamic Totalitarian Radicals will view and celebrate Park51 as a celebratory monument, a "triumphal mosque" if you like, in the tradition of Haiga Sophia et al. This despite the fact that Imam Rauf is anti-extremist, and Park51 will be intended to act as a counter to Al Q. & Co, and has nothing whatsoever to do with extremist triumphalism. Should Park51 and Cordoba be legally prohibited from building their community centre because of how assholes in Bumfuck, Pakistan will see it? Under your argument, SF, they should. Extremists will take it the wrong way and might react violently, so it shouldn't happen, right?


*However offensive and idiotic

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