First off, this is an awesome thread. Good point and counter points here. Generally I would have to say I am pro-life. When do I consider abortion to be all right? When some sort of exrteme deformity or disease or some other condition is detected before the birth that would decrease the child's quality of life. It is simply cruel and unjust to
make a child live a life full of agony. It is common knowledge that suffering is a harsher punishment than death. Counter-point? Well, if we erradicate, say, everyone fetus diagnosed with Down's Syndrom, then scientists would have no way to research the condition. You know what I mean? If we abort fetuses diagnosed with some sort of condition, the number of people with said conditions would decrease and those who are still alive already with the condition would be less in numbers. I feel like I'm not getting my point across. I'll digress and move on (I still have a lot to say)
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Originally posted by BBtB
Yes. Because she murdered my child. As I allready stated, if she wants to have it and then leave to never see our child again then so be it. But I will no more tolerate someone killing my "future" child then I will someone killing my 2 year old. And the only reason I say that I would kill her is because I know she would never see justice through our justice system.
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Just goes to show that BBtB is old-world. I strongly agree with B here, mostly because my dad is also very old-world and has raised me mostly as such. If the baby is perfectly healthy but she doesn't want it, and the bitch aborts it without me knowing, I'd hurt her really bad. I don't know if I'd kill her, but I'd hurt her.
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Originally posted by madsenj37
If you cannot be responsible for your actions, do not have sex.
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Finally someone said it. This is a cold truth that comes up .001% of the time when discussions about abortion occur. This is what it boils down to, yet people carefully evade it when it is convenient. I've had plenty of opportunities to get laid w/o protection, but I simply didn't do it because I know that the chances of knocking her up were really high. Learn self-control, or stay home. And to the ladies with no self-control, bear the consequences of your actions, but make sure to give the guy who knocked you up the same hell.
As far as rape, I still don't think the baby should be aborted. If you
really don't want it, then give it up for adoption when it is born. (more on this later)
Incest, well, chances of the baby not coming out right are high, so as I mentioned before, if the condition is detected before it is born, it might be best to simply abort it. Of course, there is the counter-point to this that I already mentioned.
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Originally posted by rockzilla
However, if the option to have an abortion weren't there, there would be an abundance of unwanted children, either given up for adoption, or otherwise creating additional strain on social assistance programs. Once my tax dollars go to pay for someone elses mistake, that's when I have the right to an opinion.
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Your tax dollar go into the trashcan all the time anyways, so a little bit of spending on social assistance programs isn't so bad. Now I don't know the specifics about this, but I recall from my economics class that Congress still has tasters who taste coffee and tea and other such items before they are served, and they are paid salaries comparable to that of a lawyer or doctor. Thats a lot of money down the damn train that your tax dollars are paying for. What with the FDA in place you'd think they'd've gotten ridden of these clowns, but they haven't. God knows what else they're wasting your tax dollars on that you don't even know about. Knowing that part of our taxes goes to these social services programs should actually be a breath of fresh air.
Thats my two cents
