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Originally Posted by Pearl Trade
I don't understand why you guys are making the link between Beck and Gore's followers going postal. The criminally insane will latch on to anything, whether that be Beck or Gore or anyone saying something they can agree with.
Gore made a call for "civil disobedience" and he inspired a guy to take people hostage. Civil disobedience is clearly not arming yourself and taking a building over. Beck wrote a fiction book and if that inspires a guy to go batnuts, I wouldn't blame Beck for it. Batnuts Man was already insane and ready to act violently, he just needed something to fight for.
Just because Beck has thousands (millions?) of followers, doesn't they will all follow him into a fight. In fact, I'd be willing to make a bet saying less than .5% of them would do anything violent.
Phrases Beck has used: "wake up" could mean to educate yourself. "Be concerned" could mean that the country is going no where fast, we should be concerned about that.
Tully, I'm surprised that you ou of all people took that Beck/Thomas Paine video out of context. "Time for talk is over" and "our enemies will fear it" were both in reference to the DC rally Beck had. He's saying our enemies will fear our free speech and ability to say what we want; "time for talk is over" means instead of only talking about things, we should get up and try to be the change we want to see.
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I don't think I'm taking it out of context at all. He using a familiar figure from an armed revolution, our armed fight for freedom from the British, to call people to action. Maybe you hear "time for talk is over" and you hear it "means instead of only talking about things, we should get up and try to be the change we want to see.' I know from talking to a lot of other people that is not what they hear. One of my favorite dive shops here is owned my a small group of folks from Texas. They like Beck and when they hear him they do not hear what you're hearing. In fact they have a jar on the counter where anytime someone kills a lion fish, a predatory fish not native to the Caribbean, 20 peso is added in the pot. The label on the outside of the jar used to read "support the Playa del Carmen Fire Dept." It now has the AOF on it. When I asked what that stood for one of the shop's owners told me "Assassinate Obama Fund." I said "you're joking, right?" "OK, let's say I'm kidding."
Stuff like that concerns me.