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Old 09-01-2010, 08:39 PM   #314 (permalink)
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Then according to your logic it is impossible to accomplish ANY kind of security or blockade ANYWHERE because everything everywhere will by your definition be "collective punishment".

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It would be nice if Israel did and didn't do stuff too. Truly.
Yes, it really would. But real people don't have to be absolutely black and white like Willravel is insisting. It's a perfectly reasonable position to disagree with Israel on many things, such as some of the more inane shit with the blocked items list, while still being overall in support of them and against Hamas. The trick here is that Israel is an actual westernized country with real elections and diverse politics (they even have a Hamas member on the knesset) while Hamas is so flanderized that people think I'm reading them a bad comic book villain-state when all I do is read their own govt charter.

Wanting Israel to stop doing things I consider wrong is the same as wanting America to stop doing things I consider wrong. If they do it then its just another change in a changing and changeable free nation.

Wanting Hamas to stop doing things I consider wrong is like peanut butter that's made of frozen fruit juice that's been blended. It's just not the same thing anymore, the fundamental defining factor of the identity has been lost. Hamas that doesn't demand genocide and consider anyone not a part of their crusade to be another target just isn't hamas anymore.
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