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Originally Posted by Willravel
These are protesters, not military. The goals are several and they'll take what they can get. If they can get the aid through, that's a victory. If they can't get the aid through, but bring international attention to the (illegal) blockade of Gaza, that's a victory. If no one on the flotilla is murdered by IDF forces illegally boarding a Turkish vessel in international waters, it's a victory.
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1. Then they need to ask Hamas to not refuse the aid, or if they dont refuse it to not steal it and sell it for weapons.
2. It's not an illegal blockade, it's also not just an Israeli blockade.
3. Out of all the ships only the one being operated by a group that Turkey themselves banned from the country for being a terrorist front group has any sort of violence and the only people "murdered" were the ones that immediately attacked the boarding party with everything from machetes to molotov cocktails. When someone boards you with paintball guns and you try to kill them it's not murder if they shoot you, and it doesn't magically become murder just because they're a good shot either.
That being said I'm going to say something that won't matter because after all that I'm still usually instantly pegged as some kind of perfectly pro-israel jihadist: Israel is still grabbing the idiot ball with both hands and firmly refusing to let go. The actual list of what is blockaded needs to settle down, and the inane shit needs to be off of it. On top of that they could've easily just waited until the IHH ship got a little closer to do the same thing, and they really need to let Egypt and Jordan do more talking whenever they're actually all together on something. They also need to start cracking down harder on the settlers, everyone basically hates them already for being psychotic racist wingnuts so they can probably get away with it.
i don't have to even particularly like the Israeli govt all that much to know that it's still a lot better to have Israel on top than a group that actually sticks the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (and freemasonry... and the rotarians... and the french revolution... and so on) in their official govt charter along with an explicit call for genocide. Hell the Palestinians (at least in the west bank) dont like Hamas very much either, the problem is hamas is still being backed by Iran in order to keep the region destabilized and they've got a crapton of weapons and no real issue with using their own as cannon fodder.