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Old 08-10-2010, 03:08 PM   #192 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru
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Originally Posted by pan6467 View Post
And are you not guilty of "Foisting your morality on others" just wrapping it under different wrapping and claiming "infringement of rights" but you are in fact infringing others rights and doing the exact foisting" You just find a bullshit justification for it and then refuse to listen making up ways a compromise would "infringe" rights. When I demonstrated no one's rights would be. But whatever... bullshit spun one way is still bullshit when spun the other.
If you consider the constitution of your nation to be bullshit, then I suppose my justification is bullshit. Pan, you are not going up against my "bullshit justifications," you are going up against the United States Constitution. And one cannot be foisted upon where one is not involved in something. You cannot foist gay marriage upon someone who isn't gay. You cannot foist abortion upon someone unless you physically force them to have one. No one is doing that.

And you failed to demonstrate how no one's rights would be infringed. Your argument that it's okay to bar a gay couple from getting married and that they could just go out of state to get hitched is ridiculous. I demonstrated why that was. It wouldn't be much different than if a state started telling Latinos that they couldn't receive a public education, that they would have to go to another state to get one. But that wouldn't be an infringement or anything, because, you know, they can totally still get an education somewhere. Ridiculous.

I'm not refusing to listen: I read you loud and clear. Maybe that's my problem.

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Very simple way of not "gutting" anything, except maybe foreign aid and that is bringing jobs back to this country and rebuilding a tax base.

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The only way to get a solution that will work is to put aside differences, ego and selfishness and work together.
You haven't quite offered any solutions yourself. How do you propose generating jobs domestically? Is your position like that of the Tea Party?
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