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Old 08-10-2010, 12:52 PM   #173 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Should we compromise on the right to bear arms? Free speech? The freedom from cruel and unusual punishment? What else?

If gay marriage is deemed a right protected under the United States Constitution, Pan, tell me why the hell there should be compromises?

You would allow the public to hold sway over the constitutional rights of minority groups?

Let me be clear, Pan, upholding constitutionally protected rights is not "thrusting and imposing one's will onto others"; it's upholding a universal claim that everyone is entitled to.
I see so when a community says we don't want guns SOLD here, not infringing on your right to have them, just no buying them here. That community should be forced to sell them anyway?

Now, I am sure if I do research and maybe DK could even give me a clue where to look. When San Fran had something similar and it was debated here... many of those people saying, "you can't do the pick and choose on who can get their marriage licensed" were in support of allowing a pick and choose on where you can buy a gun.

So, in layman's terms according to past and present what you appear to be saying is, "The majority said you can't buy a gun in this city so you can't buy a gun, even tho you have a right to. On the other hand, you have to allow gay marriages to be licensed in your state, fuck the majority."

On the one, you can own a gun, just not buy it in that community. I don't see an issue. NO rights are infringed.

On the other, it's saying, the state/community will not originate or license a marriage, BUT if they are married oustide, the state will protect their rights as a legally married couple."

Exact same thing... but yet you will argue the exact opposite depending on how YOU feel about the issue.

Like I said, perfect example dry counties. You can imbibe, you can own alcohol, the county isn't going to arrest or fine you. You just can't buy in that county. Not one right is infringed upon.

The rest of what you say is extremist bullshit and you know it. Cruel and unusual punishment...lol... just ask those in favor and opposed to capital punishment. Compromises were made there and for the most part except for extremists... it's really not much of an election hot point anymore is it?
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