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When one is implying, in a public forum, I am filled with hate and bigotry and knows nothing about me as a person, yes, I get a little angry especially when I am just bringing forth MY beliefs. And not one of them has anything to do with hatred or bigotry... but someone has to imply it does.
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We all know quite a bit about you, Pan. You've posted quite a bit about your personal feelings on myriad issues. One of the things we know about you is you have a temper and you tend to fly off the handle. Another thing is you have trouble seeing straight on the topic of race. You routinely accuse people of calling you a racist when no one has said any such thing.
This thread is about the Tea Party movement as a whole, not about you.
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It was you quoting ME and saying that so don't you dare play fucking innocent and say... Ooo I was answering someone else. It was my post you quoted and therefore it gives every indication you were replying to me.
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It was me replying to your response to my original statement. My original statement has nothing to do with you, and it was that statement I was referencing. It was never anything else, so stop trying to play the victim again. For the record, you are defending bigots by defending the Tea Party movement as a whole, which includes racists doing racist things. You don't get to support the Tea Party as a whole without doing so. If you don't want to support bigots, you can't support the Tea Party movement.
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Who keeps saying the Tea Party is full of hate and as I showed above you only really use racism... you mention the other prejudices but you use only racism as an example... I'm just saying, if you are going to say I am a defender of bigots because I support the Tea Party... then you are a reverse racist because you support people who listen to them.
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There's no such thing as reverse racism. There's either racism or not racism. I am not a racist, I don't hate any race, therefore you can't accuse me of racism.
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You want to label me but I can't dare label you.... BULLSHIT.
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Someone call whine-11 so we can get Pan a wambulance. Your labels don't stick and mine do. You can cry about it all you want, but it will remain true until you do some reflection and realize the truth.
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I see. So when it was Bush all the comparisons to Hitler and Naziism and calling him King George from the left were ok.... but now that Obama is president, any comparisons, rightfully or just in one man's opinion, it's wrong and you want to get all pissy and defensive over it.
Bullshit. If I compared Bush to Hitler because I believed there were comparisons to be made. Then I will do the same to Obamas and the Bourbon family of revolutionary France... don't like it? Aw well, ignore it. I won't stop the comparisons.
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Calling him King George has nothing to do with aristocracy, it has to do with his attitude that he could ignore the will of the majority. And it was hyperbole, I readily admit. What you're doing is simply wrong. The Obamas are not aristocratic in any way, and your characterization of them as such demonstrates you have lost your perspective.
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And if you are defending people who defend and stand with Farrakhan, Wright, the New Black Panther Party, people that hate the rich (yet are some of the richest people in this country, people that hated Bush, people that hated Gingrich, Limbaugh, Fox News, want to regulate and take rights away, want to turn the Constitution into something that allows only their views, and so on... then you must be a hate mongering person also.
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I welcome you to go through my entire post history and find any instance of me even mentioning Farrakhan, Wright, or the NBPP, let alone supporting them. You'll quickly discover no such reference. I don't support them nor do I buy into your false equivalence between them and the Tea Party. The fact is there's no liberal counterpart to the Tea Party you can accuse me of supporting. We don't do that. We don't have astroturf protests because what we're protesting almost never aligns with corporate interests. You, on the other hand, have several times in this thread said you support the Tea Party.
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See, the problem.... everyone is so concerned about hating each other no one wants to work TOGETHER to find common ground and become united... instead we work to stay divided... and you are part of the problem, I am most everyone discussing politics today is.... and that dear, dear Will... is the BIGGEST problem because the old saying is extremely true "United we stand, divided we fall."
And you can defend yourself and Pelosi and Reid and Obama but the truth of the matter is, we are all being driven by HATRED right now and it is destroying this country. This side wants only what they want ... the other side wants only what they want and instead of middle ground and trying to UNDERSTAND the other side... we are told and preached to and have the media and our own politicians and parties telling us to hate the other side.
So don't sit there and act like you are all righteous and the Left is all righteous and only the other side hates. It's fucking bullshit and laughable.
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I wasn't told the Tea Party was one of hatred by the mainstream media, I actually went out to them and discovered it myself.
The left isn't perfect. We have a lot of trouble rallying together for causes and ever since Reagan, we've been struggling to form an identity, but we're certainly in better order than anything on the right. Obstructionism in the legislature, racism from the birthers, hatred and ignorance from the Tea Party, partisanship on the bench, anti-intellectualism from the creationists, torture and never ending war from the chickenhawks, and at the center of it all is pure, unadulterated corporate greed. It's quite a mess.