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Yeah I'd imagine at best they are probably on the other side of the burbs or managed to find a very wooded lot. It would be a good idea to look into if you are going the self sufficiency route (although I suppose you could just buy a trailer) look at all the land left over for fruit and veggies or animals...a shed...
If your aim efficient use of space (home and land wise) you'd be hard pressed to do better.
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