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Old 07-29-2010, 10:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
Lindy
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Originally Posted by snowy View Post
I'm gonna call BS on that. Where's your evidence that that is the case?

SNAP benefits in California (food stamps) are issued to LEGAL immigrants only, and only those who meet certain requirements.
Oh really??? Isn't it illegal to even ask someone's status? Profiling and all that? Or is it somehow legal to ask in California, but not in Arizona?

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Originally Posted by snowy View Post
Legal immigrants do pay taxes, and therefore have a right to social services, just as any other person in the United States does.
Almost all social services across the United States require extensive documentation to be presented in order to gain services.
I'll call BS on that. No state can deny social services on the basis that someone doesn't pay taxes. People on this board regularly complain that the rich don't pay enough taxes. But there are many people who -other than sales tax- pay absolutely no taxes at all. Not even a token amount. And they often receive social services from the state.

Lindy

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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
sometimes i think undocumented workers are to conservatives what the hitlero-trotskyite wrecker was to stalinism--the universal explanation for dysfunctions that are generated by the political logic itself for which the political logic has no space--so a scapegoat gets generated that is passed off as an explanation. of course at this point there's less an american gulag than there was under stalin. isn't there? what, only 10% of the us population is in prison...but i digress...

i don't know how you neo-marxist folk even come up with a 10% figure. other than to make it up out of whole cloth. what leninist-stalinite hogwash! and proto-casually mentioned so it could easily slide right into a neo-liberal mind and be accepted as truth and...

Oops! Sorry! I inadvertently slipped into roachwrite for a moment.

Wait! Lenin and Stalin (admitted experts on incarceration and prisons) could not have made that up, they've been dead for too long!


While the United States may indeed have the highest documented incarceration rate in the world, it is still well under 1% according to the U. S. Bureau of Justice Statistics. The U.S. incarceration rate on December 31, 2008 (the latest figure available) was 754 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents, or 0.75%.
Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) - Prisoners in 2008

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