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Old 07-27-2010, 02:41 PM   #265 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
i am not sure who you imagine yourself to be talking to, dog. o wait that's right: it doesn't matter. you're just following the limbaugh script. it's always impressive to see the ways in which those heroes of individuality on the right repeat the script they're handed by their cretin pundits.
Actually, I don't spend any time listening to Limbaugh, Rush or any of the other commentators from either the conservatives or liberals. They are all pretty much paid to bring listeners to their advertisers.

However, I have learned a few things in the 36 years I've been earning a living.

Regardless how clever the government thinks it is in taking money away from the rich, the rich are going to find loopholes or find other places where they can take their money. I'd rather the rich keep their money in the US.

I can whine about how the rich are keeping all the wealth and expect the government to redistribute the rich man's money to me. Then I can complain some more when the government giveaways end and I have to fend for myself. I can also decide to do something to improve my lot and make myself a decent living. I figure I've been a whole lot more successful fending for myself than living on the government dole.

When the government says they are here to help, they really aren't. All they are trying to do is buy some votes. When some more gullible voters come along, government priorities change.

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suffice it to say that obama did not put the regulatory apparatus into place that enabled the disaster in the gulf to become a disaster. that bon bon is on the head of the right.
You may be right. However, this rig was approved in 2009. Obama's presidency, Obama's responsibility. Obama's continuing to blame his problems on Bush after a year and a half is getting pretty tiresome and not very credible.

Harry Truman got one thing right, with a sign on his desk that said "The buck stops here". Obama is no Harry Truman.

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so for that matter is the largest transfer of wealth away from the "middle class" and into the hands of the top five percent in terms of income since such numbers started being kept. that's another consequence of the lunatic policies of conservatives.
What I find amusing is that with all the claims of the disintegration of the middle class, there are statistics that the number of millionaires in the US in increasing as time goes by. For instance, here Millionaire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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There is a wide disparity in the estimates of the number of millionaires residing currently in the United States. A quarterly report prepared by the Economist Intelligence Unit on behalf of Barclays Wealth in 2007 estimated that there were 16,600,000 dollar millionaires in the USA.(page 7)

According to TNS Financial Services, as reported by CNN money, 2 million households in the US alone had a net worth of at least $1 million excluding primary residences in 2005.[12] According to TNS, as of mid-2006 the number of millionaire US households was 9.3 million, with an increase of half a million since 2005.[13] Millionaire households thus constituted roughly seven percent of all American households.[original research?] The study also found that half of all millionaire households in the US were headed by retirees. In 2004 the United States saw a "33 percent increase over the 6.2 million households that met that criteria in 2003," fueled largely by the country's real estate boom.[14]

A report by Capgemini[15] for Merrill Lynch on the other hand stated that as of 2007 there are approximately 3,028,000 households in the United States who hold at least US$1 million in financial assets, excluding collectibles, consumables, consumer durables and primary residences (p. 35).

According to TNS Financial Services, Los Angeles County has the highest number of millionaires,[16] totalling over 262,800 households as of mid-2006.[13] Los Angeles County is also the largest single jurisdiction of any kind in the United States.
If that's contributing to the disintegration of the middle class, then I'd like to see more disintegration. I know my living standards are way better now than they were 20 years ago and better than they were 10 years ago, and I'm just a working guy.
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