View Single Post
Old 06-30-2010, 02:58 PM   #473 (permalink)
aceventura3
Junkie
 
aceventura3's Avatar
 
Location: Ventura County
Quote:
Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
ace: don't waste my time with union carbide sourced material on this.

but do feel free to start other threads in which you worship whichever captain of industry you like.
You brought this issue into the discussion. You demonstrate a lack of understanding of the roles of the judiciary and government enforcement authority, or you purposefully ignore those roles.

---------- Post added at 10:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 PM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
or maybe it doesn't matter as capitalism uber alles is headed the way of all other discarded relics of an outmoded past.
It seems to me that your problem is really with those who establish and make the rules, not the capitalist who play by those rules. If the judicial system assigns a value to legal damages, what is your issue with the company that complies with the judicial determination?

---------- Post added at 10:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 PM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Dunedan View Post
Some interesting perspectives on this issue over at "The Libertarian Enterprise."

From Jim Davidson, "Murder," which analyses BP's culpability not only in the spill but the deaths of its' 11 roughnecks:

Murder, by Jim Davidson



From Rob Sandwell, an analysis of BP's history and corrupting ties to various Gov't entities. "Agency capture" is old hat for these cats, all part of the grand Mercantilist game.

Who's to Blame for Spilt Oil?, by Rob Sandwell
If true, the next steps are simple. Criminal charges should be filed. This is not complicated and the system is in place to address criminal activity. If you believe BP is guilty of mass murder, your outrage should be with our government for not bringing them to justice. We have a liberal in charge of our government, and he gets a free pass on stuff like this, right? I have mentioned it before - what a difference it would be if this happened while Bush was President.

{added}Roach,

From one of the links you sourced:

Quote:
...the Indian government further victimized the people of Bhopal. India settled out of court with Union Carbide for $470 million.
http://www.umich.edu/~snre492/lopatin.html

Why did the government settle at this amount? Why did the government assume control of the legal actions? Rather than a capitalism problem, isn't this a centralized government problem? Why was the government slow to release the money to the damaged people? I think some "aggressive" private market lawyers may have done a better job for the people.
__________________
"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion."
"If you live among wolves you have to act like one."
"A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."


Last edited by aceventura3; 06-30-2010 at 03:10 PM..
aceventura3 is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360