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roachboy · 06-23-2010, 02:51 PM

i think that folk have already referenced most of the main problems ...

i am surprised that this nonsense is taken seriously at all. it isn't science at any level.
"muslim" versus "western"?
what the fuck?

it didn't surprise me when i noted the source of the interview, a site maintained by a collaborator with david horowitz--so we're from jump in a neo-fascist space---which you'd think would make folk suspicious.

but maybe european neo-fascism is concerned with matters at the very best essentialist but more likely just racist in ways that differ enough from the american counter-parts (hysteria about "illegal immigrants" anyone?) to confuse readers.

but the fact that anything about this racist horseshit seems plausible would give us pause, maybe providing a reason to think about just what the united states became after 9/11/2001 and this not at the level of fringe neo-fascist political organizations but rather at the level of mainstream political discourse. this same opposition "muslim"/"western"----why it's the idiocy of the huntington thesis all over again. but it resonates somehow, seems almost reasonable...

that's a good indicator of how far into neo-fascist politics the united states drifted.

if you read other stuff by the good mister sennel, the opposition is straight up racism...fashion some ludicrous essential opposition between white christian "westernness" and some swarthy muslim Other and from there start to make arguments about the Importance of Repatriating Them.

this is the stuff of dr strangelove and the Problem of Contamination of Our Precious Bodily Fluids.

there are maybe conversations of interest to be had about immigration and the formation of collective identities and generational shifts and there are conversations to be had about the repellent politics of race and christian soldiery of the past decade but this is not the basis for any of them--unless the discussion is about the ways in which neo-fascist pseudo-science operates and how it can slide beneath the radar of intelligent people sometimes if it circulates unmarked. whence the importance of naming the fascists for what they are. but i digress.

06-23-2010, 02:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	i think that folk have already referenced most of the main problems ... i am surprised that this nonsense is taken seriously at all. it isn't science at any level. "muslim" versus "western"? what the fuck? it didn't surprise me when i noted the source of the interview, a site maintained by a collaborator with david horowitz--so we're from jump in a neo-fascist space---which you'd think would make folk suspicious. but maybe european neo-fascism is concerned with matters at the very best essentialist but more likely just racist in ways that differ enough from the american counter-parts (hysteria about "illegal immigrants" anyone?) to confuse readers. but the fact that anything about this racist horseshit seems plausible would give us pause, maybe providing a reason to think about just what the united states became after 9/11/2001 and this not at the level of fringe neo-fascist political organizations but rather at the level of mainstream political discourse. this same opposition "muslim"/"western"----why it's the idiocy of the huntington thesis all over again. but it resonates somehow, seems almost reasonable... that's a good indicator of how far into neo-fascist politics the united states drifted. if you read other stuff by the good mister sennel, the opposition is straight up racism...fashion some ludicrous essential opposition between white christian "westernness" and some swarthy muslim Other and from there start to make arguments about the Importance of Repatriating Them. this is the stuff of dr strangelove and the Problem of Contamination of Our Precious Bodily Fluids. there are maybe conversations of interest to be had about immigration and the formation of collective identities and generational shifts and there are conversations to be had about the repellent politics of race and christian soldiery of the past decade but this is not the basis for any of them--unless the discussion is about the ways in which neo-fascist pseudo-science operates and how it can slide beneath the radar of intelligent people sometimes if it circulates unmarked. whence the importance of naming the fascists for what they are. but i digress. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite