I am sorry, but it is absolutely ridiculous to call me a "troll" or try and make personal comments about this.
I really am starting to get up of almost every time I post on this website I seem to get insulted.
I posted a picture... you can see that the strikers head is marginally ahead of the trailing foot of the furthest defender. There is nothing to argue about... there is no variable interpretation involved....
It is very close, and if it wasnt given the Slovenians would have little to complain about, but the facts are very clear
1 - The US striker has only one player between him and the goal line, when the ball is struck forwards by another US player. He runs across the line of the ball, he takes a defender with him, he is offside.
You dont have to believe me, or have an argument with me about it. Go to Youtube, screenshot the video just as the ball is struck as I did, and paste it into an image viewer and look at it closely. I drew lines between the 6 yard line and the 18 yard line, dragged the line forward parellell to the two. Do the same thing, and you can see for yourself he is just offside.
As I said before, you must judge offside from any part of the body that can legally play the ball - so you have to compare the head of the US striker and the trailing foot of the Slovenian defender.
2 - There is a case for a penalty if he was onside, he clearly is being held. You dont often see holding blown up for in the penalty area (although it was in the NZ vs Italy game today), but the fact the player was offside (and was being pulled backwards, not pushed forwards) means that the foul against him is secondary to his offside status.
3 - The goal wasnt disallowed for offside, but for foul play by an American player. I cant see any evidence of foul play by a US player on the replay, but the fact that there was an offside means it was the right decision to disallow the goal, even if it was done for the wrong reasons.
I said already I didnt see the game, because I was at work, so I cant comment on any other decision. But in this case, the decision is correct.
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Originally Posted by Seaver
Look... I don't see any offsides.
That being said, I think this is one of those few instances where we should allow the soccer commentators who have re-watched and analyzed this over and over again to have the say. Every single one I've found from the English speaking world says there's nothing worth the call. They essentially said if anyone deserves the call it's multiple penalties towards Slovenia, but it'd be right to let it play out.
Hey SF... do you agree with the call (by the same ref) that carded the American for a handball when it clearly hit him in the face? If you do it's clear you're just trolling at this point. He was a shitty ref and hopefully gets kicked out of any future FIFA competitions.
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Originally Posted by YaWhateva
Arguing with SF is like talking to a wall. He will see whatever he makes up in his mind and there is no dissuading him from that no matter how wrong he is.
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Rather than just insult me, why dont you explain simply why you dont believe the player is offside?
Since it is apparently obvious to you and everyone else that I am wrong, it should be quite simple for you to show, with reference to the rules of the game, why he is onside.