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I would have a stake in this argument in that my mother has been a extreme participant in the lives of my sisters children and that she should absolutely have a right to visit them without doubt. There was a time when my sister was going through her divorce that her ex used my sisters son against my mother to attempt to control my sister (he prevented my mother seeing her grandson unless she would support him over her own daughter), somebody call Geraldo, anyway, my mother has been a caretaker of these children, unpaid, for years and years. Yes, there are many circumstances in this day that need to be supported by the courts in regards to allowing grandparents access to their grandchildren. I can see where this needs to be a case by case situation, but something could be stipulated in the law that grandparents have a right to visitations, at least under supervision if mandated (forced by the custodial parent), a minimum four times a year, if for nothing else than that familial link (especially if there was visitations prior to the divorce). If the children do not want to be with the grandparents then that must be considered, even though this could be residual damage from an angered parent, the child's well being is always the most important issue.
Divorce, especially when it comes to immature, selfish parents who would use their own children as power pawns, is one of the most painful things a child can experience or a relative who loves these children can witness, there were and have still been moments when I thought this divorce would kill my mother, that is the reality of the bond she has developed with her grandson and without the law supporting these grandparents, well, they just need to, that's all.
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you can tell them all you want but it won't matter until they think it does
p.s. I contradict my contradictions, with or without intention, sometimes. 
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