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Old 06-17-2010, 03:27 PM   #42 (permalink)
Idyllic
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It’s in the Qur’an, see chapter 24, verse 31:
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And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
In these next two verses the women are the wives of Mohammad so one can see where women of Islam would desire to follow in the paths of the most righteous women of their faith, the wives of the prophet. That would be a powerful incentive to be and/or remain veiled, so one could emulate the wives, outside of social views and/or Shar'iah alone. I now understand why it is said that the more virtuous women wore the veils while those of less virtue did not, the prostitutes, etc. This one will be difficult to traverse for women and still maintain their own sense of faith based oneness with their God, I find that kinda sad, imho. I also find it sad that I have to, in some sense, give up a bit of oneness with my God if I wish to deny that I am made form the rib of a man, for if I accept this as true doctrine, I can never be mans "equal", only what was once his property. But I do it because I have to for my own sense of equality within the human-race and I justify this as it was a necessity for man to place ownership on women at the time the Old Testament was written, but I don't live in that time, I live in this one. Sometimes religious doctrine hurts twofold.

Chapter 33, verse 55 and 59 respectively:
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It is no sin on them (the Prophet's wives, if they appear unveiled) before their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brother's sons, or the sons of their sisters, or their own (believing) women, or their (female) slaves. And (O ladies), fear (keep your duty to) Allah. Verily, Allah is Ever All-Witness over everything.

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
I don’t have a problem with women who do not wish to expose their bodies, I have a problem with women and men who feel that only non-virtuous women will allow themselves to be seen in something like a bathing suit, and that by wearing a bathing suit females are already viewed as less virtuous, it is this thinking that sets into motions the belittling of women outside of doctrine and the excuse of harm upon them i.e. “she was asking for whatever attention she got, look at how she was dressed.” This mentality places on women the burden of self protection from a society who would use them merely because she wears less, who would view a woman as already devoid of virtue based merely on external appearance. If a woman walks down the street in a bikini how does this define her morals? In what way does what a woman wear prove her as chaste or unchaste. In FL, many women walk around in the scantiest of attire, but I cannot determine their level of sexual awareness based on the amount of skin they expose and for someone to assume that a scantily dressed female is less virtuous is, imho, wrong. I remember high school with many religious girls who were virgins who wore two piece bathing suits, what right do I have to judge them at all regarding their choice of attire? Modesty should be a personal choice but one that does not find definition or necessity of adherence for proof of anything in religious doctrines or rape will linger in religious societies as less than the crime against humanity that it is. In truly secular societies, no means no, period, even if a woman is stripping naked while swinging on a pole, who are we to judge their morality, go ahead, throw that stone (glass houses shatter easily). Sometimes I simply believe that religious doctrine (ALL confining religious/ideological doctrine), sucks the ability for humanity to progress within the “science of evolution” as humankinds’ most valuable cohesive element in this modern day of our existence.
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