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Old 06-10-2010, 11:23 PM   #285 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz View Post
It's pretty much impossible to have a rational conversation about things when both sides are simulateously right and wrong.
This is why I've given up on a lot of Israel/Palestine arguments. You've got to keep up with the PA, Hamas, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, and all of the extra third parties like the IHH*.

The problem outside is that too many people desperately want for things to be simple, they can't accept that it's possible for this to just be a crapsack situation where both side has legitimate beefs with the other and one side screwing up doesn't automatically negate that side's arguments. Israel running a crappy blockade doesn't negate their argument that it's utterly wrong for Hamas to be launching craptons of rockets and mortars with civilians as shields, and Hamas being hellbent on genocide doesn't make Israel's blockade any less stupid for restricting things it has no reason to. A whole bunch of people think it DOES though, and that's a problem.


*Banned from Turkey's 1999 relief efforts: "Ultimately, Turkey was forced to ban the IHH from participating in earthquake aid efforts because it was counted among several “fundamentalist organizations” operating “secret bank accounts” that were refusing to allow local authorities to oversee the distribution of their aid resources"
http://www.diis.dk/graphics/Publicat...2006-7.web.pdf
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