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Idyllic · 06-08-2010, 03:53 PM

Ace, sure, I would image that some of the passengers were there for a myriad of reason, personal, humanitarian, journalistic, political, etc.. but the mercenaries, the terrorist linked individuals, these are the ones I have issue with, the persons who would not just invoke violence but who thrive off of violence and fear as a means to an end. You may want to read my posts, I am all about the necessity of the IDF to defend themselves and that this was a plan orchestrated by self-indulgent anti-Zionistic, anti-Hebraic, anti-infidel individuals to bring about bad press for Israel and to devalue the importance of the embargo. I don't think that ALL 700 of the original passengers were aware of the fully violent plans and intentions of many of these unsavory characters, but I am a mother in a free country who would never subject my children to violence in the name of a cause so it is hard for me to grasp that women brought their children on board with the knowledge of what was coming, whereas many in the jihad culture will consider this a just maneuver in jihad, martyrdom is a very, very powerful weapon.

I am pretty sure if you read my posts you can figure out my view of this incident. We are still not done with the realty behind this incident either, espionage is a cyclic action that in exposing one angle you will in turn expose your assets if you move to quickly, so patience and distant and time are inherently one of the coverts most valuable tools. These deaths happened for attention, and attention is exactly what hamas is getting (just not the kind they wanted as they wanted negative press for IDF and Israel and positive press for Palestinians), however, more intelligent people are beginning to recognize the depths terrorists will go to feed their own warped appetite for death and destruction in the singular oppressive cause they seek to justify, not merely the surface cause of a few who simply wished to bring attention to the plight of the citizens of Gaza.

50 men with approximately $10,000.00 each would be pretty close to $500,000.00, at about $5,000 each, this kind of money could have bought the lives of 100 hungry people hoping to help their families, and the deaths of many innocents that these hungry, pigeonholed, and tyrannized suicide bombers could have blown up in their attempts at martyrdom, or simply a way out of hamas’ tyranny. Obviously this is all in my humble opinion, and many will say I seek out only the information that fulfills my views, and that that information is found only within the realms of pro-Israel and pro blah, blah, blah, or whatever it is that I am attempting to prove or my goal, but the reality is, I have no goals, I attempt to prove nothing. I am merely witnessing what is before me and stating my points of perception regarding these actions based on my own education in the realms of terrorism and what is unfolding in the ME. I have no stake in this conversation, it is not even a debate to me as I simply see this as black and white and it is blatantly apparent to me, terrorism and terrorist linked humans are tyrannical regime cohorts and that theses tyrannical regimes can, will and do persist in continuing and spreading, if permitted, the use of anybody and everybody within their ability to achieve their singular goals in the continuations of said self vindicating, tyrannous views of fear, hate and genocide, it really is that simple to me.

Terrorism: The killing of non-combatants, with the specific intent of spreading or perpetuating ones own political, religious or ideological agenda by instilling fear of death in those who would normally, without coercion, reject the views of the movements leaders. Non-combatant being the key term here.

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Idyllic Psycho Location: My House	Ace, sure, I would image that some of the passengers were there for a myriad of reason, personal, humanitarian, journalistic, political, etc.. but the mercenaries, the terrorist linked individuals, these are the ones I have issue with, the persons who would not just invoke violence but who thrive off of violence and fear as a means to an end. You may want to read my posts, I am all about the necessity of the IDF to defend themselves and that this was a plan orchestrated by self-indulgent anti-Zionistic, anti-Hebraic, anti-infidel individuals to bring about bad press for Israel and to devalue the importance of the embargo. I don't think that ALL 700 of the original passengers were aware of the fully violent plans and intentions of many of these unsavory characters, but I am a mother in a free country who would never subject my children to violence in the name of a cause so it is hard for me to grasp that women brought their children on board with the knowledge of what was coming, whereas many in the jihad culture will consider this a just maneuver in jihad, martyrdom is a very, very powerful weapon. I am pretty sure if you read my posts you can figure out my view of this incident. We are still not done with the realty behind this incident either, espionage is a cyclic action that in exposing one angle you will in turn expose your assets if you move to quickly, so patience and distant and time are inherently one of the coverts most valuable tools. These deaths happened for attention, and attention is exactly what hamas is getting (just not the kind they wanted as they wanted negative press for IDF and Israel and positive press for Palestinians), however, more intelligent people are beginning to recognize the depths terrorists will go to feed their own warped appetite for death and destruction in the singular oppressive cause they seek to justify, not merely the surface cause of a few who simply wished to bring attention to the plight of the citizens of Gaza. 50 men with approximately $10,000.00 each would be pretty close to $500,000.00, at about $5,000 each, this kind of money could have bought the lives of 100 hungry people hoping to help their families, and the deaths of many innocents that these hungry, pigeonholed, and tyrannized suicide bombers could have blown up in their attempts at martyrdom, or simply a way out of hamas’ tyranny. Obviously this is all in my humble opinion, and many will say I seek out only the information that fulfills my views, and that that information is found only within the realms of pro-Israel and pro blah, blah, blah, or whatever it is that I am attempting to prove or my goal, but the reality is, I have no goals, I attempt to prove nothing. I am merely witnessing what is before me and stating my points of perception regarding these actions based on my own education in the realms of terrorism and what is unfolding in the ME. I have no stake in this conversation, it is not even a debate to me as I simply see this as black and white and it is blatantly apparent to me, terrorism and terrorist linked humans are tyrannical regime cohorts and that theses tyrannical regimes can, will and do persist in continuing and spreading, if permitted, the use of anybody and everybody within their ability to achieve their singular goals in the continuations of said self vindicating, tyrannous views of fear, hate and genocide, it really is that simple to me. Terrorism: The killing of non-combatants, with the specific intent of spreading or perpetuating ones own political, religious or ideological agenda by instilling fear of death in those who would normally, without coercion, reject the views of the movements leaders. Non-combatant being the key term here. __________________ you can tell them all you want but it won't matter until they think it does p.s. I contradict my contradictions, with or without intention, sometimes.