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SecretMethod70 · 06-08-2010, 04:32 AM

Well first off, I have no problem with people eating dog or cat. Eating someone's pet is wrong because it's their property, not because it's a dog or cat.

More to the point, though, I don't really have much interest in trying to create a consistent ethics with regards to biological imperatives. We like to eat animals. We didn't choose that out of some conscious choice, so we can't expect to cram that interest into a consistent ethical philosophy. No, that doesn't mean that we should act like the animals we are in all situations, but accepting this fact goes a long way toward avoiding unreasonable extremes, not to mention the mental gymnastics required to do what our bodies tell us to but also make cerebral excuses for our actions. Sometimes we just do things because we feel like it, and that will never change no matter how hard we try. (Again, see abstinence education). You're right that people aren't generally consistent about what they will and will not eat, but you presuppose that that lack of consistency is a problem. I don't think it is. It's just part of being human.

Veganism is the tyranny of the superego over the id, and that's fine for people who choose it, but it's also why it will never happen on a global scale.

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SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Well first off, I have no problem with people eating dog or cat. Eating someone's pet is wrong because it's their property, not because it's a dog or cat. More to the point, though, I don't really have much interest in trying to create a consistent ethics with regards to biological imperatives. We like to eat animals. We didn't choose that out of some conscious choice, so we can't expect to cram that interest into a consistent ethical philosophy. No, that doesn't mean that we should act like the animals we are in all situations, but accepting this fact goes a long way toward avoiding unreasonable extremes, not to mention the mental gymnastics required to do what our bodies tell us to but also make cerebral excuses for our actions. Sometimes we just do things because we feel like it, and that will never change no matter how hard we try. (Again, see abstinence education). You're right that people aren't generally consistent about what they will and will not eat, but you presuppose that that lack of consistency is a problem. I don't think it is. It's just part of being human. Veganism is the tyranny of the superego over the id, and that's fine for people who choose it, but it's also why it will never happen on a global scale. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling Last edited by SecretMethod70; 06-08-2010 at 04:35 AM..