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Old 06-07-2010, 04:51 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Exactly, and I think that's a much more reasonable and achievable goal than telling people to ditch meat from their diet entirely.

This podcast showed up in Google Reader for me today and pertains to this subject...

CBC Ideas - Have Your Meat and Eat It Too - Part One
So completely transforming the chain of supply and demand to a paradigm which arguably will not even meet the demand is more practical than opting out entirely? How would this be implemented? Would the governments be required to outlaw corn feedlots? I don't think it's any more achievable than getting people off of eating animals. I would hope that at least it becomes half and half.

I think the discussion should stay on this point: whether the meat production system can change entirely to small farm/grass fed more practically than people just opting out entirely. I personally think it's a pipe dream perpetuated by Michael Pollan et al., in order to soften his message and make it... palatable for people who aren't really interested in actually making any sacrifices. And to that - when I calm down, I could speak of how my life is actually filled with more excess and variety than when I ate meat.

I'm also curious what effects you think the UN's statement will have and if there's a history of them making statements like this.

Points hashed in other threads and maybe not pertinent here: the ethical inconsistencies of meat eating and the "necessity" for humans to eat meat. Plan9 - that is a cool article with too many big words for me to finish this year. I will get to it but thanks for putting a good source out there.
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