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Old 06-03-2010, 11:12 AM   #132 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dippin View Post
Who, exactly, were the terrorists on board that ship?
I have not concluded they were terrorists. I emphasized that there are people who are not terrorists who are willing to die for a cause.


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The fact that there are people highly motivated to eliminate Israel does not excuse blatant human rights violations. This is a silly deflection that again ignores the problem that the embargo goes way beyond weapons.
Seems to me that you may be engaged in a silly deflection. When this question is answered we will know: What was the motivation behind running the blockade? If it was only about food and aid, your position will be proven correct. In my view - if the motivation was really food and aid, no one would have died.

Also, why would reasonable unarmed people attacked armed military (people trained to kill)? You do not have an answer, do you?

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This is a "war" in which one side has significantly more firepower than the other, which doesn't even have a standing army. Collective punishment has never worked in these situations.
If not for US support and US clout, Israel would not exist. Israel is currently facing a big challenge given the Obama posture on Israel - US support is being tested and Israel is being tested. I think the risks of a world war is higher today than it has been in many years. This is no longer a theortical discussion.

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And "blind support" to me sounds a lot like supporting an illegal action that used significantly more power than necessary.
My concerns have more to do with this growing into a broader military conflict than with the blockade. If Israel over-reacted militarily they should be held accountable. If this was a staged event those responsible need to be held accountable. I have come to my conclusion and I have stated my basis - I hope I am wrong - but nothing you or anyone has presented has been able to shed any light on the issue. there are some very simple questions that can be answered if you are correct that can explain all of this. Perhaps we will see some interviews of those involved and can get a clearer understanding of their mission.
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