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Old 06-02-2010, 11:51 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Idyllic View Post
I am not talking about the Palestinians, I am talking about the hooded terrorist affiliated hamas that tyrannize the Palestinians too. If the Palestinians, the Gazans, could exile the terror linked hamas, and I wish they could and would, I think this is what Israel wants also, as do I believe many of the Palestinians that are being demoralized at the hands of hamas and the additional terrorists who will be coming to assist the hamas in their chaos and disorder which is what the embargo is attempting to prevent [...]
Here is some food for thought regarding Hamas, Palestinians, and the flotilla.

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In the last two years under the leadership of Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinians have turned increasingly to non-violence. Although the leaders and shock troops of the breakaway faction of Hamas (an organization partly created by Israel) which rules the Gaza Strip do not support this, a majority of Palestinians appear to. Years of war and violent confrontation produced very little. Rather than driving Israel to agree to a reasonable division of the land of Palestine, it provoked fear among the Israeli population and fear, as it often does, supported a hard-line politics of suppression.

It is this history that has convinced many Palestinians to support non-violent action — of which the flotilla carrying much needed supplies to Gaza is but one manifestation. Organizers of non-violent action inside Palestine have organized boycotts of Israeli produce, besieged and isolated Jewish settlements and confronted and blocked Israeli military convoys with row upon row of protestors who sit peacefully and do not throw stones or brandish weapons as did their predecessors and as Gaza-based Hamas still does. All this has unsettled Israel, and the government has been relieved to be able to confront the rocket-firing and stone-throwing of Hamas cadres. Those tactics have secured the voters behind Israel's right-wing government while drowning out the impact of the non-violent protestors.

The Israelis and some American politicians are saying, with video evidence to prove it, that the Israeli commandos were attacked by militants wielding staves and knives. Just as Martin Luther King's non-violent brigades were infiltrated by militants, there are always fringe elements in most demonstrations of this kind who have other ideas. But on this ship they were both a tiny minority and only modestly violent. They didn't succeed in killing a single soldier and could have been restrained by means other than shooting them dead. The ship was 98 per cent peopled by non-violent activists, including women and children, parliamentarians and even a former American ambassador. Moreover, their cause was just, should have been acceptable and, as the British Conservative party foreign minister pointed out, was merely aiming to make a hole in an unacceptable embargo.

The world is mad at Israel, as the Security Council debate and resolution make clear. Even the U.S. went along with its unequivocal language.

The drama has a long way to play out. But in five years time we could well look back and see this was the moment when the world united to compel Israel to seriously compromise and allow the Palestinians to rule over a viable and sizeable state.

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A success for non-violence in Gaza? - thestar.com
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